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el mae de las teclas
12-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Hi everyone! I ´ve been thinking it might be useful for me to have an expression pedal for my Nord Lead 2x. Any one here knows which one or what brand might be suitable for this synth?

Thanks so much for any help!

Andrés

HammondToby
12-18-2007, 07:53 AM
Roland EV-5, Roland EV-7 and the pedals from Bespeco work. I believe the ones from Behringer too, but I'm not sure about that. The control pedal has the same effect on the sound as the after touch has (that's hardwired within the Nord except the Stage and may be the Wave).

Best regards
HammondToby

alcu
12-18-2007, 10:04 AM
Is the expression pedal just another controller which provides the same functions as the data sliders, mod wheel, etc?

Perhaps I should try looking into one and implement it my setup.

alex

el mae de las teclas
12-18-2007, 12:50 PM
Roland EV-5, Roland EV-7 and the pedals from Bespeco work. I believe the ones from Behringer too, but I'm not sure about that. The control pedal has the same effect on the sound as the after touch has (that's hardwired within the Nord except the Stage and may be the Wave).

Best regards
HammondToby

Ok thanks for the sugestions I'm going to check them!
But Im not sure that I understood very well what you mentioned about the pedal having the same affect as the aftertouch. The NL2X dont have after touch, and as far as I know the control pedal has the same effect as the modulation wheel, and that is actually my idea, to be able to free my left hand while modulating with the pedal.

Thanks!
Andrés

EDIT***

Ok I already read the short description of the EV pedals, both seem to be good pedals, but what is really the difference between the 5 and 7 models? Because the 7 costs twice as much as the 5. Is there an advantage if I use the 7 with my NL2X instead of the 5?
Thanks again!

Liquidkey
12-18-2007, 01:03 PM
I don't like the plastic feel of some pedals, therfore I bought the Boss FV500L (http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/FV-500L/):biggrin:

HammondToby
12-18-2007, 07:50 PM
Ok thanks for the sugestions I'm going to check them!
But Im not sure that I understood very well what you mentioned about the pedal having the same affect as the aftertouch. The NL2X dont have after touch, and as far as I know the control pedal has the same effect as the modulation wheel, and that is actually my idea, to be able to free my left hand while modulating with the pedal.

Just had the NL3-Manual st hand, sorry for that... Didn't know, that the NL2X hasn't AT. If you want to use the pedal as an modualtion source (morph source), you can assign any parameter, you want to.


Ok I already read the short description of the EV pedals, both seem to be good pedals, but what is really the difference between the 5 and 7 models? Because the 7 costs twice as much as the 5. Is there an advantage if I use the 7 with my NL2X instead of the 5?

Well the EV-7 has a longer way, so it's easier to use... it's nearly as the pedal on my Hammond C3 and the control angle is really big. The EV-5 is not as sturdy and has a short control angle, the cheap version of the EV-7. Personally, I do like the EV-7 but I could work with the EV-5 on a synth, but not on a organ clone... Habbits, habbits :wink:

Best regards
HammondToby

el mae de las teclas
12-19-2007, 12:17 AM
I see what you say Toby, thanks!

That Boss pedal seems to be awesome too! But I do have a question. If there is something I have had trouble understanding for a looong time... that has to be impedance. I think I have an idea of how impedance could work on microphones (with some doubts....) but what do I need to take into consideration when this concept applies to this pedal!? Because there is the low impedance and high impedance versions of this same pedal...

I'm sorry for asking so much!


Andrés

Liquidkey
12-19-2007, 05:51 AM
but what do I need to take into consideration when this concept applies to this pedal!? Because there is the low impedance and high impedance versions of this same pedal...

You should get the low-impedance, thats what i bought.


I'm sorry for asking so much!
Hey, thats what this forum is for.:wink:

-Mikael

HammondToby
12-19-2007, 07:37 AM
OK, Impedance is a term from physics and describes the resistance from resistors etc. and the virtual resistance from quantum effects etc...

I hope, I remember, how it works... Anyway, I think, it was this way, correct me, if I'm wrong:

What the pedal does is: there are three voltages (tip, ring, sleeve) and the current is as follows:

tip > potentiometer > ring, sleeve is an controll voltage to compare the output signal from the potentiometer, wich alters the input voltage.

There are two types of pedals in general: they differ in the potentiometer, wich can have a linear or an exponential alteration of the signal and in the direction, the current flows (top > ring vs. ring > tip). That's the reason, pedals from Yamaha don't work with the NL2X (wrong specifications)... There is a workaround, but this requires a variable pedal jack and a software switch, like they did in the Nord Stage (there you can switch per software between the different types of pedals).

Different impedances of pedals mean, that they are designed for different signals. Mic signals are quite weak compared to line signals, but usual, mic signals are balanced and line signals are not. Signals from a guitar are quite weak, cause it's a passive device, so it needs another potentometer than a pedal for a line signal.

Hope, this helps.
Best regards
HammondToby

el mae de las teclas
12-19-2007, 05:25 PM
Well thank you both! It did help!

Now I'm just going to wait and see which one Santa decides to bring me!

Cheers!
Andrés