Triton Extreme : The Tube ?

[Mathieu Fiset]

So what do you think of the valve force in the Extreme ? I've tried it a bit and wasn't blown away, but I guest it all depends on how you use it. I only tried the easy boost fonction hehe.

[MrPillow]

It is said to make your guitar sounds warmer and more tube like, but it doesn't matter how many preamp tubes you run your sound through, a tube preamp will always sound solid state through a solid state power amp stage. It can add some preamp distortion to sounds which is always nice, but don't fall into the "makes it sound like tubes!" hype.

[SerFox]

Meh. That's all I have to say.

[Grey Loki]

It adds warmth to a digital signal, but IMO it's overrated, and definately not something to base the sales of your board on, though judging by its popularity, I guess a lot of people like the look of it. Myself included, back when I was searching for a workstation.

[Semmi78]

just a gadget. looks cool but not worth the money.

[ChrisMcCoy]

The first time I tried it, I had to ask the sales rep if it was broken.
The tube lit up, but I couldn't hear any difference in the sound.
So, no, not worth it.
I hate to bash Korg, but with the exception of the Oasys (which I have not yet tried) I don't care much for their recent products, particularly the Triton Extremes. To me, the keybed feels sluggish and unresponsive. However, the Triton Pro for whatever reason had a much better feel. Still can't say I'd buy one though.

[Mathieu Fiset]

Well I don't base myself on that. I need an Extreme to replace my LE so it is already decided that I will take the "X" hehe. But I was wondering about the tube...and it seams that I'm not the only one who doubt about it :O

I think I will use it more as an insert effects that anythings else, sometimes...
And about the keybed, I thought it was kind of cool since it is way better than my LE, but I also tried the M3 and the feel was so hot :O But I don't need the M3 :D

[SerFox]

I've tried the Oasys. It's definately a step up, but, much like the M1, they've slacked off and added more pointless controllers, including a widdly stick 'thing'. It's basically a bigger and show offier Extreme. It's a decent workstation, but DAMN it's overpriced.

[Michael Troy]

I must chime in here and say I too hear zero difference when the tube was on or off. It looks nice though haha:wink:

[Shreddy]

Wow, I thought it was just me good to see I'm in like minded company about that tube.

Regarding the M3's keybed, I thought that was the nicest keybed I've felt in a very long time. I really didnt care for the Triton's keybed, actually I dont care for Rolands newer keybeds either. Whats up with these companies, dont they know that some of us still play these things and would like some nice feeling keys.

[aibohphobia]

The tube did change the sound when I tried it, depending on the patch and the settings that I had on it. Can't say I was impressed by it though. Being that it wasn't included in any of its successors, I would be inclined to say it wasn't a spectacular success.

However, I am a fan of the Extreme, regardless of the gratuitous blue-light-thingy.

[Deceit]

The valve, as any other tube, adds warmth and pumps the sound. It's no distort-o-matic, it's not your Ibanez or Boss or MXR pedal. Anyway, you can tell the difference in most of the patches, and if you don't maybe you should use better PA to test keyboards.
Anyway, most if not every producer - studio owner has some kind of tube-powered device (plenty of great preamps feature tubes which saturate in a very musical way). I would have never ever bought a Triton Extreme for the valve. The only reason to buy it was the Triton being discontinued and the Triton Studio being absolutely overpriced.
Deceit.

[Grey Loki]

If I ever want a nice authentic analogue growl (more in a rock mix than anything else), i've found it works to rent an old analogue two track tape machine, then put it into record arm mode, saturate the tape using the input gain, and output said signal into my DAW.

[Omega Monkey]

What would be REALLY sweet, is if keyboard makers would add an effects loop to their boards. And then not only that, but have it software patchable anywhere in the signal chain (within reason). Of course, they would never do that, because it would mean tacitly admitting that you might need MORE than just their onboard effects engine.

Still, that would rock. If I could say, take my EX5 signal after or maybe just before the amp section, send it out to say a stereo tube preamp, and then run it back in just in time for the EX's 2 insert FX, "chorus", and "reverb" sections, that would be amazing, and definitely advantageous for stuff like organ sounds in particular.

The sad thing is, most workstations already have the "hardware" (ie i/o structure) to implement this, but I would say there is almost no chance that they will.

[Grey Loki]

That would be pretty sweet, but you could do the same by picking up a little mini-mixer from Mackie or somesuch, and using the insert send on there. Of course, then you wouldn't have the flexibility of where in the FX signal chain the insert point goes.

It's still a very sweet idea - I wonder if it'd be possible on the Fusion, since it has those 8 TRS inputs.

[MrPillow]

Couldn't you do it on the Fantom by sending the A outputs into the Audio In, routing that to your desired point in the FX chain, then to the B outputs and on to the amp?

Or B - In - A out, etc?

[maelstrom191]

I own the triton extreme and I honestly beleive it is mostly just a marketing ploy... I do use it to add just a bit more warmth or pizzazz to a program, but overall... it usually makes the programs sound worse than they did before, often making them sound way too fuzzy and dull, used right, it's okay, but IMO it's more for show than anything, you're better off to use an EQ as on of the EFX and do what you want to there.

[sanchis]

the valve transforms the uneven overtones into even overtones (more pleasant to the ear). Besides to give more power without distorting to most of the programs.

I was going to buy Triton Extreme after the LE that I have, but I think that an M3 should be better.