Korg triton extreme sample problem

[mrbeekle]

well, in trying to work with samples i encountered so many problems :P
im trying to put samples from my computer (in wav format) onto the triton so i can play them while playing live. what i assume u do is load it up and then go into 'edit wave' and then 'convert to track' and select a certain program where u want to save it.
the problem is:

1. it only sounds when u play the lowest note on the keyboard, and i dont know how to change this
2. it doesnt seem to work with files that are at all big
3. everytime i turn the triton on the samples no longer sound when i press the keys

if anyone has any advice at all id really appreciate it!
thanks a lot!

[HammondToby]

I can only help on point 3, 'cause I don't have a Triton Extreme and don't know the machine in detail. However: Samples are stored in the RAM. If the unit is switched off, the RAM looses all memories, as it is with your computer. You have to load the samples every time, you switch your unit on, this is normal! On Kurzweil, you can have a 'Boot Macro', whitch can load files from an internal installed HD automatically after startup. May be there is an equal function on the TE?

Best regards
HammondToby

[mrbeekle]

ah thats so annoying! um im not sure there may be. ive certainly not found one yet.thanks for the help anyway. anyone else?
thanks!

[SerFox]

The best way to have the samples preloaded is to have a patch set up alreadyw ith those samples in a combi and tell it to load the samples, then change in the blobal settings the startup to Memory. This will load up everything (Hopefully.)

[mrbeekle]

yeah ive put the samples into a program.
is there a setting i can turn on so that they stay there? u said something about the global mode?
ill try it out but any more advice would be much appreciated
thanks guys

[mrbeekle]

right i changed the global mode to memorize rather than reset but its not made a difference
how do u tell the program to load up the samples when its turned on?
or is it not possible :P
thanks

[mrbeekle]

anyone? :)

[Staccato]

Floppys och smartmedia cards for loading the samples, but if you want the save them somewhere, then you have to get the scsi and a harddrive to connect to it. Then you can save your samples there and load them in every time.

[SerFox]

The cards for the triton extreme are apparantly very rare

[mrbeekle]

ive got a card for my triton
thats where i save everything including the samples
i cant find a way to make it autmatically load them when it turns on tho..

[mrbeekle]

is there even a way to do this? to get the triton to automatically load samples eveyrtime it turns on?
tehre must be

i dont believe it can be so inpractical that eveyrtime u turn it on u have to load the samples, assign them to a program, and do that with every single sample

how can any perforaming artist have time to do that on stage?

[keythief]

The Triton RAM does not store sample data, therefore you must reload it each time you power on. The Triton does store sample mapping data however, so your program/combi settings containing samples will "remember" where the samples go. There is NO way to have them automatically load for you.
Further....when saving sample data to your card, you must have all your samples loaded in the Triton and saved in one session, if you wish to add a sample to your setup at a later date, you must load all your old samples into the Triton and then add your new sample , then save as a new .ksc file. For more detailed how to info read this thread.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21861

This should help....if you need more help, feel free to ask....

Good Luck !!

[mrbeekle]

hey it says this there

''When you save all the sampling data in memory in media mode one of the files that is created has a name ending ".KSC". That file is effectively a list of all the multi-samples and samples saved in that session (try opening the KSC file on your PC in notepad and you'll see it's a list of file names). If you load that KSC file next time you power up the Triton it will reload all the multi-samples and samples that were in memory last time you did a Save All.

So in Disk/Media mode be sure to select the All option in the dialog that appears when you use the Save Sampling Data Option.

Quote:

Parameter Guide
All: All multisamples and samples from the Sample
memory (RAM) will be saved as .KMP files and .KSF
files. Simultaneously, a .KSC file and a directory to contain
these files will also be created and saved.
The filename will be the .KSC filename and the directory name.


Then when you power the TEX up next time load that KSC file that was created, everything else (samples/multisamples) will automagically be sucked back into memory at the same time.''

That sounds like u only have to load up one file and that loads everything? however the file tyupe is KSC or something. but i dont think i have one of those files cos im not sampling and then assigning them to a program. i have the samples on my pc and im putting them on my triton via a USB pen as WAV files, so no KSC file is created in this process. do u understand whta i mean?
anymore help would be appreciated cos i have a gig soon and need to work this :P
thank u very much keytheif for u help, id appreciate any further help in relation to my question above

[keythief]

You are loading samples into the TEX RAM via USB, but you must save all sampling data to a flash card in order to create a .ksc file. This file type is the main file that contains the sample/multisample .wav as well as the "map" information. I believe you could also save a .ksc file to your pc, but I don't really know. I think the important thing is that having your sample data on a flash card allows you to take the TEX out "live" for a gig, etc...
So after loading *ALL* your samples into the TEX and assigning them to a program and assigning those programs to be used in a combi...do a "Save All" to the flash card. When you go to your gig, after turning on the TEX simply go to media and load that .ksc file that you created and you're ready.

[mrbeekle]

hey thanks a lot its all working great.

the only problem is memory. ive got a 1GB card, but i notcied when i turn the triton on the first screen says SLOT 1 - 16MB.
is that my sample memory?

cos ive got to a point where i cant transfer any more wave files to tracks. it either syas 'memory overflow' when i try and load it, or it says 'not enough sample memory' when i try and transfer wave to track.

thing is i havent actually got 16MB worth of wav files there, is it just taken up by settings and mappings and stuff?

can i expand my memory, cos ive only got a few samples on at the moment and its apparnatly already full!!
thanks a lot

[keythief]

Glad to hear things are working out.....As for memory, what you have is a 1GB flash card which stores all your data...BUT...your onboard RAM (sample memory) is only 16MB.....this is expandable to 96MB by installing three 32MB RAM cards...the access panel is located on the top left corner of the board and the memory sticks simply plug/unplug....you can purchase these via Ebay for a reasonable price....
Cheers

[mrbeekle]

ooooooh i see so i CANT use my card for sample memory?
so ive got 1GB for.. what? PCG's? :P what a waste of space!

why cant u use the card for sample memory? and if not why can u get cards so big :P what could u fill a 1GB card with if not sample memory?

thanks a lot again!

[keythief]

Your card does store sample memory along with PCG and sequence/song data....think of it as your harddrive.....the RAM in the board (in your case 16mb) acts as the recording (sampling) medium.....When you record (sample) the data is put into the RAM.....from there you SAVE it to your card.....without saving to the card you will lose your samples'data much like working on a letter in Microsoft Word and not SAVING it...when you turn off your computer you will lose the work you have done.....