The most compact set-up for….

[Thiago]

Forget all money issues...
If you’re up to play a 6 hour cover show playing DT, STRATOVARIUS, SX and GENESIS, what would be the most compact set-up elected?
Including stands and other accessories and gadgets…

[Lyngs]

Casio. Definitely Casio.

[eviani]

Pfft. For that, I have one simple answer:

The autoharp.

[AboutToCrash]

well that depends if you want a mono-synth or not... you could just use a master board, like motif, fantom, kurzweil, or triton(or Oasys if you really mean that money isn't an issue) then maybe a Radius or something for your leads... if you are going compact, you definitely don't want Tony Bank's Setup :biggrin:

[-=AnatomiC=-]

I would say, some kind of a powerful master keyboard with 61 keys, like motif, triton or fantom.

Reinforce your sound with a V-synth.

+ control pedal and sustain pedal

And V-Stands from Roland are great: very compact, light and TANK solid - probably the best stand ever created.

[mdsonic]

Oasys and receptor may do.......................

[Staccato]

Oasys, receptor with Ivory, and a Nord Lead.

[Omega Monkey]

Motif ES (I would go with a 76 probably), with the AN and probably AP and DX PLG cards. Then you get a couple of nice powered speakers (12"s or 15"s), maybe some JBL Eons or something, 1 stand for the keyboard, 2 stands for the speakers, 2 instrument cables to run to the powered speakers, a power cable for the keyboard, a power strip to run everything, a sustain pedal, a footswitch, and an expression pedal. Oh, and some kind of stool/throne/bench. Personally I would go with the drum style throne with a back, they are very comfortable and adjustable.

You SHOULD be able to at the very least "get by" playing just about anything with that setup. If you bought everything brand new, it would probably cost about $4000 or so. Obviously used it would be a lot less.

That would be the most compact. But personally, I would probably switch to an ES8, and some other 61 key VA synth, delete the AN PLG card, and switch to a small mixer, a burly power amp (200-400W), and 2 JBL or EV 3 way cabinets with 15s. Everything else would be the same and I would use a 2 tier A frame stand as well.

Oh, and one option might be to add a set of MIDI pedals for those droning bass notes in a lot of Genesis stuff (run into the VA).

[Maximus]

IMHO one Oasys or one K2600 and lastly one triton extreme with moss not because the first two are the most expensive but because they all have more than 128 ram (Writable) locations for simple programs and combis multis or setups and for some aplications such as playing completly live on long gigs with lots of keyboards and lots of program changes 128 are not enough (sorry motifers and fantomers :frown: ) for the rest i agree with Omega Monkey :biggrin:

[Maximus]

OHH i forgot a very important thing Programing the more you properly program your rig the less stuff you're gonna need, and Omega made a good point with the midi pedal board for the genesis stuff a Roland PK-5 would be good (DAMMIT! I WANT ONE NOW )

[Omega Monkey]

I have one. *evil laugh*

The best thing is to hook it up to my EX5. I take the "rap whistle" preset and modify it a bit and it sounds JUST like Taurus pedals. Its sweet.

[Maximus]

I have one. *evil laugh*



Rub it in :p

BTW why are they so expensive?

[el mae de las teclas]

Hi man, probably they already told you the best advice, so I'm interested on which songs you will play from SX? Love that band, and would surely love to play a tribute to SX myself!

Andrés

[Bert]

Oasys. Stand. Done.

-- B

[Omega Monkey]

PK-5s arent really that expensive for what they are. They are built very well, and they actually have a lot more functionality than you might expect (the manual is fucking long!). You might spend $400 bucks or so on them, and unless you really beat on them, they should last you until about forever. I dont use mine a WHOLE lot, but IVe had them since 99 I think (used) and they are just as good now as they were then.

[Maximus]

i dont want to hijack the thread but i got some questions for ya Omega


how useful are the buttons on top of it ?
have you learned to play like the organist of yore with all that bass line fancy footwork?
and if so, is it hard to learn ?
how hard is it to play while standing?
Can you use an apex stand with it while standing?
does using one makes you feel like Geddy Lee?
have you ever been a member of the comunist party?
Thanks man

[Omega Monkey]

1. Really depends on how you use them, but they could come in quite handy for a lot of things. You can switch MIDI channel, change octaves, turn the hold function on or off, etc... You also have 4 or 5 "presets" with each one designed for different purposes. Like theres a bass setting (duh), a poly setting (so you could play chords if you were sitting down, or maybe in conjunction with the hold function), "drums" (for playing rhythm parts, would also be useful for triggering "one shot" samples/loops), and "sound effects" (similar to drums), and maybe one more. Theoretically, if you had a sampler, you could use the key mapping of the sampler to play various chords tied to whatever note was most convenient (ie you could set up the chord progression in order from C to C on the pedalboard). Then you could play the chords with your feet (say a Rhodes sound or organ, or whatever, in the proper octave, playing as big clusters as you want, or even completely changing the sound with each chord) and play leads with your hands (allowing you to do pitch bends/modulation/etc...).

But even just for straight bass pedals they can add a lot to a sound, and you can theoretically use any sound you want to (that you have available in a keyboard or module). Especially in smaller groups it fills out the lowend, allowing the bassist and/or keyboardist more room to stretch out.

2. Not really, but I can do some cool stuff. Unless you have some speedy feet, you probably wont get much more than 8 notes out of them, but thats really enough for most things. I also dont really "practice" them as such, I just kind of play them when I feel like it (usually for jams with 1 to 3 other people), and mostly in conjunction with guitar rather than keyboard (I play both). Some nice droney bass pedals with some jazzy Andy Summers-like guitar playing along with a good drummer works really well for just improvising.

3. Well, with enough practice, theoretically anything is possible. It just depends on your foot/leg dexterity, and your musical aptitude pretty much.

4.. Some things are easier standing (because your leg is not as restricted), and other things are easier sitting (because you have more stability).

5. If you mean the type of stand where the column comes down the center and there are 3 legs coming out, I suppose it would work if you put it to one side, but it might be too far forward then (ie you would have to stand further from the keyboards to play the pedals). An A-frame stand or table style stand would work better. I keep mine under my 3 tier A-frame stand where I have my EX5 and whatever else is on top of it (usually my JX-3P and my Alpha Juno).

6. Sometimes, except less Canadian.

7. Thats for you to know and me to find out.

[Maximus]

Thanks for that anwer man, roland should pay you comision