SYSTEMATIC CHAOS - new Dream Theater Album

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
FEBRUARY 8, 2007

WHEN DREAM THEATER
AND ROADRUNNER RECORDS UNITE!

BAND AND LABEL JOIN FORCES WITH NEW STUDIO ALBUM PLUS WORLD TOUR
TO FOLLOW

ROADRUNNER RECORDS is proud to announce the signing of progressive metal pioneers Dream Theater. A new studio album, Systematic Chaos is due in June. Dream Theater will hit the road in support of the album for a world tour, including major festival appearances in Europe.

Since their first studio release in 1989, this US based five-piece has notched up record and DVD sales in excess of six million and headlined to audiences of 20,000. Having undertaken seven world tours across 42 different countries, Dream Theater has established a live reputation that has swept them to arena-status around the globe. They have appeared alongside acts such as Deep Purple, Iron Maiden and Yes.

Recognized by peers and public alike for their advanced musical expertise, the band (Mike Portnoy, drums; John Petrucci, guitar; John Myung, bass; James LaBrie, vocals; Jordan Rudess, keyboards) has long held the ability to combine complex arrangements with unadulterated songwriting skills, the material often underpinned by riffs as heavy as anything in the Metallica repertoire.

“This album’s got all of the elements we’ve become known for,” reveals Portnoy. “The focus on musicianship, the skull-crushing riffs, the big progressive epics and the heart-wrenching melodies. We’ve got one of the strongest and most devoted fan bases in the world, and they should certainly be happy with the new material. By working closely with the label we hope to turn a great many new heads too.”

“Dream Theater and Roadrunner Records have led parallel careers on the cutting edge of metal for many years,” say A&R men, Derek Oliver & Dante Bonutto, “We’re thrilled to be working with a genuine market-leader, and when you add everything the guys bring to the table to the independent spirit and work ethic of the label, the results can only be exciting in the extreme!”

Prior to teaming up with Roadrunner, Dream Theater was signed to a seven-album deal with Warner Music Group worldwide. The deal commenced with the critically acclaimed and commercially successful Images And Words (1992), a Gold-certified US release, and concluded, in equal style, with Octavarium (2005), a Top 40 Billboard outing. In August of last year the band issued Score, a live album/DVD (recorded at Radio City Music Hall in New York), which went straight to the No. 1 spot on the Billboard DVD charts, knocking Pink Floyd from the top!

By the following month, the five were holed up at Avatar Studios in New York, working on the new album with veteran engineer/ mixer Paul Northfield (Rush, Queensrÿche, Porcupine Tree). As usual, Portnoy and Petrucci chose to co-produce the project, which features seven compositions (one a 25-minute epic), and word on the grapevine is that the Dream Theater/Roadrunner alliance looks all set to kick off with a classic.

Systematic Chaos, Dream Theater’s ninth studio release, arrives at a time when the band is casting a longer-than-ever shadow across the rock and metal landscape. Their influence is being acknowledged by an increasing number of contemporary, cutting-edge acts such as Stone Sour, Trivium, Shadows Fall, Opeth as their fan base continues to grow.

Touring plans will be announced shortly. Please visit www.roadrunnerrecords.com or www.dreamtheater.net for up to the minute information.

[Speedy Fingers II]

Oh My God.

[koma666]

Great !!!! "Systematic Chaos", sounds chaotic... uhm well... I know...

[lexodus]

I hope it isn't another too heavy album in TOT stile!! The name roadrunner records sounds too heavy!

Mr Rudess say something please!

[chipotlemonkey]

"This album's got all of the elements we've become known for," reveals Portnoy. "The focus on musicianship, the skull-crushing riffs, the big progressive epics and the heart-wrenching melodies. We've got one of the strongest and most devoted fan bases in the world, and they should certainly be happy with the new material. By working closely with the label we hope to turn a great many new heads too.""This album's got all of the elements we've become known for," reveals Portnoy. "The focus on musicianship, the skull-crushing riffs, the big progressive epics and the heart-wrenching melodies. We've got one of the strongest and most devoted fan bases in the world, and they should certainly be happy with the new material. By working closely with the label we hope to turn a great many new heads too."

I'M VERY EXCITED!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!

wow....I'm a nerd....then again, I'm writing this in the JR forums...haha

[Piranha]

Systematic Chaos?! That sounds like a techno/disco album

But who cares, DT's making it! It should be good disco music.

[cooltothez]

well looks like MY HEAD ASPLODE!!!!!

[Asho]

OMFG......Roadrunner....

New title sounds so badass....

[Analogkid]

Way cool!!! Congrats on the new deal Boss!

[bobbykunkle]

TO RUDESS: I don't want to push, but Jordan, would you mind commenting on the new album a little bit and let us know what we should be looking forward to? I'm sure we would all appreciate it a bunch! Thanks

[Rudess]

It's an album of very organic Country and Western material that should
get your toes tapping and your hands clapping.

But really......
Fasten your seatbelt kids and read what Mike had to say in the quote above.
We are very excited about this release. It's pure DT!!

JR

[chipotlemonkey]

Hopefully they don't get too caught up in Europe this tour. Although they record in the United States, they sure do put on a lot of concerts overseas. I still haven't had the opportunity to see them and I live in the 4th largest city - Houston.

:(

[attic-keys]

Allright, ninth album congrats....

But systematic chaos doesn't really sound ninth to me
I mean:
Sixth: six degrees...
Seven : train of thought (contains 7 tracks)
Eight : Octavarium (a whole bunch of thing reffering to 8)
Nine : systematic chaos ???

Not that it has to refer to 9 , It still is going to be a kickass album
But maybe nine tracks ??? or a song called nine??? or a mathematical reference ???

Anyway hell I'm excited, I just don't hope they do a festival in Holland, I hope they do ahoy or Heineken music hall again in this small but fine country.

Exciting I can't wait

©

[Mathieu Fiset]

I think....well I THINK...it will be GREAT :D

And I also think it will sound a bit like Train of Thought, wich is not a bad thing IMO :)

But the album title reminds me a lot of...bad things...daaaaa...they had cooler names in the past :O

[bobbykunkle]

I think the title sounds really cool and very Jordan Rudessy. The title just really reminds of me songs like Ra and Time Crunch and a more distorted version of Paradigm Shift. I'm lookin forward to it!

[aibohphobia]

systematic chaos is not a bad thing, it basically defines my life!

[maJ estY]

Allright, ninth album congrats....

But systematic chaos doesn't really sound ninth to me
I mean:
Sixth: six degrees...
Seven : train of thought (contains 7 tracks)
Eight : Octavarium (a whole bunch of thing reffering to 8)
Nine : systematic chaos ???

Not that it has to refer to 9 , It still is going to be a kickass album
But maybe nine tracks ??? or a song called nine??? or a mathematical reference ???

Seven tracks, one of them is around 25 minutes long.

[Grey Loki]

Is that on the new album?

Sweeeeet!

[rock_ya]

Mmm, can't wait (yeah, like I could with any DT - JR album release before :tongue:). And, BTW, Systematic chaos sounds really nice especially after the so "mathematical" Octavarium. It sure does sound like something electronica, but I doubt there 're gonna be songs like Petrudgaboom or Laportqwvek in it :biggrin:

[Sandro]

It's an album of very organic Country and Western material that should
get your toes tapping and your hands clapping.



JR


YES!! hehe... I'm so excitred to hear the new stuff!! .......

[Viperk88]

Must Have Release Date!

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

Must Have Release Date!

JUne, 7th...

[xenomorph]

man, I just cant wait!!
this is going to be an awesome album!!!

I'm soooo excited!!
I cant wait to hear the new Jordan Rudess stuff!! I just loved the whole thing he was playing while MP was recording the video of the new album!!!

http://youtube.com/xxxxx

I hope it has lots of continuum stuff!!

EDIT: I know it's there but it's an MP gift for his forumers ONLY, so at least don't link directly to it or it looses the whole purpose :wink:

[xenomorph]

oh my God, I didnt know that, Im so sorry!!!

I guess I got way too excited about the things JR was playing and everything... Im so sorry

[rock_ya]

^^Haha, OK, it wasn't that important, it's just that people keep doing this so sorry if it seemed harsh or anything :smile:

[whitelightening]

I'll bet Petrucci plays a 9-string guitar, Myung plays a 9-string bass, and MP's kit Siamese Monster will include 9 different drum kits in one. I suppose Jordan might have a 9-manual Oasys and James...well, his vocal range is extened to 9 octaves now!

*just kidding of course*

[Staccato]

I'll bet Petrucci plays a 9-string guitar, Myung plays a 9-string bass, and MP's kit Siamese Monster will include 9 different drum kits in one. I suppose Jordan might have a 9-manual Oasys and James...well, his vocal range is extened to 9 octaves now!

*just kidding of course*

HAHA, LOL!:D Poor crew that have to carry around that 9 manual Oasys!;)

[Piranha]

I'm quite excited about this album.

[RemcoG]

So am I !

Expectations are high so do your best Dream Theater :biggrin:

[FatalDreams]

JUne, 7th...
Actually, nowhere has it said "June 7th", it did say "6/07" which means "June, 2007"... So, no confirmed specific date, yet.

[FRETPICK]

Does anyone have a sound clip?:smile:

[xenomorph]

im afraid not... =(

I only have the joke the DT guys did (the 10 sec clip with 102310293 million parts of DT songs mixed up hehe)
I just wanted to know if that was a joke with old DT stuff or the new stuff?? I guess it's only old stuff, cause there are looots of things that reminds you of old songs... anyway...

oh, yeah: I just want to say that I hope there are lots and lots of cool continuum effects!! go Rudess go!! =DDDDD

[Piranha]

im afraid not... =(

I only have the joke the DT guys did (the 10 sec clip with 102310293 million parts of DT songs mixed up hehe)
I just wanted to know if that was a joke with old DT stuff or the new stuff?? I guess it's only old stuff, cause there are looots of things that reminds you of old songs... anyway...

oh, yeah: I just want to say that I hope there are lots and lots of cool continuum effects!! go Rudess go!! =DDDDD

Nah, it was all from the new album.

[RemcoG]

They just deny :tongue:

[arroyomusic]

Systematic Chaos?! That sounds like a techno/disco album

But who cares, DT's making it! It should be good disco music.

Disco in 7/8 time signatures....I would really like to see someone try to dance to that!

[Piranha]

I don't know much about dance, but there MUST be 7/8 dances, no?

[Antonio Mazzei]

oh my god, hope they step on latin america again!

[lutima.mp]

I'm gonna love it, I have no doubt about that :wink:
Now...all...I..have...to...do...is...wait.......ve ry.......patiently....
:tongue:

Caroline

[rock_ya]

OK, MP quote to spice things up a bit :biggrin: :
(from http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1550315&mpage=1))

Just minutes ago myself, JP and Paul Northfield signed off on the final mix of the new album!
We are absolutely floored!!

I NEVER say this about a new album (as it's so cliched for an artist to say this about their latest release), but I honestly think this may be my favorite DT album to date!!!
It really has EVERYTHING!

John and I will be mastering next Tuesday and shortly after that, I'll release some more info (song titles, etc.)

I cannot wait for y'all to hear this thing!!!
It's gonna be as torturous for me as it will be for you waiting til June!!!!

MP


Mmm, I 'm getting a whole lot more impatient lately :tongue: ...

[dech2410]

its tuesday now :P so come on MP :P

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

THE TRACKLIST:

DREAM THEATER - SYSTEMATIC CHAOS
1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1
2. Forsaken
3. Constant Motion
4. The Dark Eternal Night
5. Repentance
6. Prophets of War
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls
8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2

Produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy Engineered and Mixed by Paul Northfield

[dech2410]

I never expected these kind of names 0_o but it sounds really awesome. Cant wait to hear now!!!

[99tollap]

This forums very different to the JP forum. When JP posts there is complete uproar/excitement (prob cos he never posts), but when Jordan posts here its just like any other guy posting!

Anyway, new album sounds great. The epic should be fantastic. I have a really good feeling in my toes...

[rock_ya]

^^Keyboardists, what do you expect :tongue: .

Track names sound really epic (and Matrix-like :biggrin: ).

[amopae]

It sounds like it could be a dark album, dont you think?

[bobbykunkle]

to me, the titles sound like the opposite of titles for liquid tension albums

[mdsonic]

No Pumpkin kinf title on CD.................

Progressive metal pioneers DREAM THEATER have finalized the track listing for their new album, "Systematic Chaos", due in June via Roadrunner Records.

"This album's got all of the elements we've become known for," reveals drummer Mike Portnoy, who co-produced the CD with guitarist John Petrucci (Paul Northfield engineered and mixed the effort). "The focus on musicianship, the skull-crushing riffs, the big progressive epics and the heart-wrenching melodies. We've got one of the strongest and most devoted fan bases in the world, and they should certainly be happy with the new material." The disc sports seven new songs, one of which runs 25 minutes.
"Systematic Chaos" track listing:

01. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1
02. Forsaken
03. Constant Motion
04. The Dark Eternal Night
05. Repentance
06. Prophets of War
07. The Ministry of Lost Souls
08. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2

[twg88]

Cool stuff... I wonder which one is the new song in mike's AA suite (if there is one). Maybe "Repentance" or "Forsaken".

[xenomorph]

AWESOME!!

I feel this is going to be my favorite DT album of all time!!!!
Cant wait to hear it!!

really awesome track names, but what happened to the name "The Pumpkin King"?? I just loved it.... =(
(maybe it will be a AA episode name... but... the name was just PERFECT for the chords Rudess was playing on the Xmas vid!! =(

[99tollap]

AWESOME!!

I feel this is going to be my favorite DT album of all time!!!!
Cant wait to hear it!!

really awesome track names, but what happened to the name "The Pumpkin King"?? I just loved it.... =(
(maybe it will be a AA episode name... but... the name was just PERFECT for the chords Rudess was playing on the Xmas vid!! =(

I know it was meant to be a joke name like 'puppies on acid' but i think it was great as well in a kind of twisted/horror way. I can just imagine an evil pumpkin grin...

Deffinetly should have kept the name Jordan!

[xenomorph]

Deffinetly should have kept the name Jordan!

+15215211!

[Piranha]

EXCELLENT! This got me even more excited, WOW!

[Asho]

PUMPED..... That track list sounds likes its of a Shadows Fall album though....but i certainly think itll have some nice prog parts there

[April]

Love the title! Track names sound spiritual, kind of afterlife-ish perhaps? Can't wait to hear it!

April
Prog Palace Radio

[Margaret]

It's an album of very organic Country and Western material that should
get your toes tapping and your hands clapping.

But really......
Fasten your seatbelt kids and read what Mike had to say in the quote above.
We are very excited about this release. It's pure DT!!

JR

Organic country and western music.. hahahahaha!!
No doubt it'll be very DT-ish. Can't wait for the release and tour in June! See you @ Fields of Rock, Jordan :)

[Gustavo]

Well i just hope this album has some really proggressive stuff, unlike octavarium and tot, which the best songs were metal-ly......... but well, its DT.... i bet i'll like it anyway....I'm not into much of the heavy stuff, but things like glassprision start to make me like it

Gustavo

[FRETPICK]

Well i just hope this album has some really proggressive stuff, unlike octavarium and tot, which the best songs were metal-ly......... but well, its DT.... i bet i'll like it anyway....I'm not into much of the heavy stuff, but things like glassprision start to make me like it

Gustavo

TOT & OCTA are my favourite albums!! In fact I's going to put TOT on now.:biggrin:

I hope the new album isn't to heavey or the wife will be like"...off with that.".:rolleyes: :smile:

[Krahn]

The lower cd is the first limited edition with dvd.
The contents of dvd are not written down here. I must get the dvd!!:cool:

http://www.hmv.co.jp/search/index.asp?target=MUSIC&category=1&keyword=Systematic+Chaos

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

http://www.themirror.de/img/news/scgross.jpg

[xenomorph]

wow, I see HEADS on the corner! (down, left) it looks they are in a cinema or somthing...

[Piranha]

"Systematic Chaos" track listing:

01. In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 1 (9:00)
02. Forsaken (5:36)
03. Constant Motion (6:55)
04. The Dark Eternal Night (8:51)
05. Repentance (10:43)
06. Prophets of War (6:01)
07. The Ministry of Lost Souls (14:57)
08. In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 2 (16:38)

[Krahn]

YahoooOOOO!!:biggrin:
I pre-ordered the limited edition one yesterday.(Of course I'm going to buy a normal version.)
Though the contents of DVD are not announced yet, they are some promo videos of their new tracks,I guess. Anyway I'm looking forward to another masterpiece.
The countdown to THAT DAY has begun.:cool:

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

steven wilson on Systematic Chaos?

----------------------

From Steven Wilson personal website (http://www.swhq.co.uk/):

The Steven Wilson "Collecting Space" EP compiling tracks made available on SW's MySpace page is in preparation for release towards the middle of this year on Headphone Dust, as is the Bass Communion "Pacific Codex" CD/DVDA on Equation Records. In the meantime SW appears in one capacity or another as a guest on forthcoming releases by VidnaObmana ("The Bowing Harmony"), Fovea Hex ("Allure"), and Dream Theater ("Systematic Chaos"). Also his 2 long-form Bass Communion remixes for Theo Travis and Fear Falls Burning will be issued soon on vinyl releases by ToneFloat

[Piranha]

steven wilson on Systematic Chaos?

----------------------

From Steven Wilson personal website (http://www.swhq.co.uk/):

The Steven Wilson "Collecting Space" EP compiling tracks made available on SW's MySpace page is in preparation for release towards the middle of this year on Headphone Dust, as is the Bass Communion "Pacific Codex" CD/DVDA on Equation Records. In the meantime SW appears in one capacity or another as a guest on forthcoming releases by VidnaObmana ("The Bowing Harmony"), Fovea Hex ("Allure"), and Dream Theater ("Systematic Chaos"). Also his 2 long-form Bass Communion remixes for Theo Travis and Fear Falls Burning will be issued soon on vinyl releases by ToneFloat

NOOOOOOOO!

[rock_ya]

In the meantime SW appears in one capacity or another as a guest on forthcoming releases by VidnaObmana ("The Bowing Harmony" for which SW provided all of the vocal parts used as the source material for creating the album), Fovea Hex ("Allure" to which SW provides treated guitar to the title track), and Dream Theater ("Systematic Chaos" for which SW provided an apology)

WTF? An apology?

[bobbykunkle]

steven wilson on Systematic Chaos?


Wait, time out, what the hell? I checked out some of his music on his myspace and its all like flow music. Is this a joke? What the crap is going on?

[twg88]

Mmm... am I the only one to think this might be cool? I love porcupine tree, and SW does great melodies and is a fantastic songwriter. He's done backing vocals for a lot of things as well, including Opeth and Pain of Salvation I think, so he could well be doing that. But it might not fit too well with Dream Theater...

I'm sure the guys know what they're doing. Don't understand the "apology" thing though :confused:

[Gustavo]

Mmm... am I the only one to think this might be cool? I love porcupine tree, and SW does great melodies and is a fantastic songwriter. He's done backing vocals for a lot of things as well, including Opeth and Pain of Salvation I think, so he could well be doing that. But it might not fit too well with Dream Theater...

I'm sure the guys know what they're doing. Don't understand the "apology" thing though :confused:

I also think he is incredible, and im going to enjoy it, though it is more probable that the song is more proggressive than metal, which is excellent and better for me.
sw can also compose metal, though. he has composed for opeth and some of pt's metal-y stuff.

[assassin]

Funny, I checked Wikipedia for "apology" and it says:

Apology can refer to:
* Apologetics, the systematic defense of a position.

[Piranha]

Funny, I checked Wikipedia for "apology" and it says:

Apology can refer to:
* Apologetics, the systematic defense of a position.

Everything's connected! :O

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

DREAM THEATER'S upcoming release "Systematic Chaos" will be released on Tuesday June 5th (date may vary in different countries) and will be available in two formats:

Regular Edition CD:
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/upfiles.aspx/615/E1C2B911D89D437FB8B0E4F6848F73A2.jpg

and a Special Edition CD and DVD:
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/upfiles.aspx/615/6EEA4B38895B486485AAD13C013A71F2.jpg

The Special Edition DVD will include:
--- the entire album mixed in 5.1 surround sound
--- "Chaos in Progress - The Making of Systematic Chaos"
(a 90-minute documentary directed by Mike Portnoy)

The CD's track listing for both editions is:

1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1 (9:00) 2. Forsaken (5:36) 3. Constant Motion (6:55) 4. The Dark Eternal Night (8:51) 5. Repentance (10:43) 6. Prophets Of War (6:01) 7. The Ministry of Lost Souls (14:57) 8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2 (16:38)

The band will shoot a video next week for the first single off the album, "Constant Motion".

[twg88]

Cool! I love the special edition artwork, I reckon it's better than the regular edition:smile:

Can't wait!

[Krahn]

Cool! I love the special edition artwork, I reckon it's better than the regular edition:smile:

Can't wait!

+1 :smile:

[rock_ya]

+1 from me too, that was my first thought when I saw it :cool: .

[aibohphobia]

a music video? a single? I am intrigued! Looks like a new record label is changing things a bit. Hey, as long as it gets DT more publicity without changing their music, I'm happy!

Besides, the release date is my birthday, so that will be a nice present!

[King_Ellesar]

cool news! does anyone know yet how we can get the special edition? will it be any different from just being able to buy it in the store?

[assassin]

The band will shoot a video next week for the first single off the album, "Constant Motion".

Instrumental video? Awesome!

I also like the Special edition cover more than the normal.

[Krahn]

The band will shoot a video next week for the first single off the album, "Constant Motion".
I think they are busy preparing for a video shooting of next week now.
I hope their work goes well!! Good luck to you, Jordan!! I'm looking forward to the first video.:cool:

[Premetheus37]

There's a little "20" on the biggest ant's knee. Perhaps because of 20 years of DT...?

~Premetheus

P.S. The first DT video with JR!!! I thought they were done when Hollow Years went so badly.

[Krahn]

The first DT video with JR!!!
:eek:

[hephiroth]

wow, that is fairly surprising news, as i believe in one of the commentaries on either Live in Tokyo or Five Years in a Live Time DVDs, i think portnoy talks about how the band was done with music videos. this is definitely a label thing, and i bet they're also going to really do a viable radio edit.

i have to say, on octavarium, they really should have pushed "I Walk Beside You" as the radio single. i think it was silly not to, so i really hope Roadrunner will help the band make a better decision about which song from this album to try to push to radio. it would just be really cool for a killer DT song to get some serious airplay because the band deserves it. there are still people that remember DT only as a "one-hit wonder" band from "Pull Me Under," and that's doing a disservice to what a quality act DT is.

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

http://www.themirror.de/img/banner/dt.gif

[ZooLook]

Listen and enjoy. Only few secs/song, but better than nothing

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/hnum/1315954/rk/home/rsk/hitlist

[Michael B. - The Mirror]

the album is going to be released tomorrow in germany and the whole german DT Community is freaking out!!

[Piranha]

You guys are very lucky.

[King_Ellesar]

i was just listening to the Dark Eternal Night. it has really really grown on me! so fun to listen to


but i noticed that some parts really remind me of Dance of Eternity. This may be just my imagination, or maybe has already been discussed, but i also notice a similarity in the titles of the two songs.


Dance of Eternity
Dark Eternal Night

i dunno...maybe it's just me :P


have i mentioned i'm excited for this album?

[Firestorm]

Got my copy yesterday and...

... need some listenings :P

[April]

KFlester can bite me. I can't stop listening to this CD.

This album absolutely and totally blows me off my feet. I've taken to calling it 'Crunchy Goodness' instead of the real title though ...

SWilson speaks on this one -- so the Monkey can relax (hi Chris!!!)

Jordan, hope we get to see you in Upper Darby.

April

[MyoJo]

I think this is the best album ever... seriously!

[Athox]

Perhaps in terms of complexity. But as an album I'd say 6DOIT is better. The Dark Eternal Night, Forsaken and Prophets of War, on the other hand, may well be the best songs ever. :biggrin:

[Pumpkin King]

Wow...this album is the most technical album I've ever heard. I loved The Dark Eternal Night and Constant Motion. And the solo by Jordan in Constant Motion was awesome. Too bad Jordan's solo wasn't as long as Petrucci's.

[Krahn]

I saw the billboard album charts of dated June 23. OMG!! DT landed at #19!!:eek: I think this is great!! Thank you DT. Thank you everyone.:wink:

Edit: I watched the documentary again though, I remembered I had laughed in a certain scene. I laughed so hard during the scene where JP was playing the last solo of The Ministry of Lost Souls and the video of him was divided into a lot of small squares finally. That was so funny because what I expected happened!! This DVD is full of humor. I really enjoyed it!!

[telemaco5]

Hello, before I post my opinion on Systematic Chaos, I just want to tell you not to hate me or crush me for the things I'm about to say.

I really think this is the most discreet album of all. It's not bad at all, but I don't really think it has any song that could beat the classics. As a whole album I think even Falling into infinity or when dream and day unite are quite ahead of it, and I don't mean technically or sound quality, I mean in composition quiality. I was really hoping to hear something different but still "Dreamtheatearesq", kind of what we all felt when we heard octavarium.
Songs like Forsaken, constant motion, the dark eternal night or prophets of war, don't show me anything new that is really convincing.
Both In the pressence of enemies are good songs, the best of the album, but seriously, do you like them better than under a glass moon, Voices, Fatal Tragedy, Hell's kitchen, Glass Prison, In the name of god or Octavarium? I gave an example of an extraordinary song form each album, and I don't think any of the Systematic Chaos can catch up with them.
I'm sorry for saying all this, because I know there are people that may really love this new album. I'm not been disrespectfull at all, but I think that in a forum there must be a mixture of reviews and opinons.
Well this is my opinion and I was glad to read all yours before.

Cheers,

Omar

[BlobVanDam]

Hello, before I post my opinion on Systematic Chaos, I just want to tell you not to hate me or crush me for the things I'm about to say.

I really think this is the most discreet album of all. It's not bad at all, but I don't really think it has any song that could beat the classics. As a whole album I think even Falling into infinity or when dream and day unite are quite ahead of it, and I don't mean technically or sound quality, I mean in composition quiality. I was really hoping to hear something different but still "Dreamtheatearesq", kind of what we all felt when we heard octavarium.
Songs like Forsaken, constant motion, the dark eternal night or prophets of war, don't show me anything new that is really convincing.
Both In the pressence of enemies are good songs, the best of the album, but seriously, do you like them better than under a glass moon, Voices, Fatal Tragedy, Hell's kitchen, Glass Prison, In the name of god or Octavarium? I gave an example of an extraordinary song form each album, and I don't think any of the Systematic Chaos can catch up with them.
I'm sorry for saying all this, because I know there are people that may really love this new album. I'm not been disrespectfull at all, but I think that in a forum there must be a mixture of reviews and opinons.
Well this is my opinion and I was glad to read all yours before.

Cheers,

Omar

I understand your point (and I won't kill you!), but I think it's good that DT are making a good mixture of music on their album that covers everything from more radio-friendly tracks like Forsaken and Constant Motion to 25 minute epics like ITPOE. And I think they always manage to give a piece of music the unique DT flavour.

A song like Constant Motion may appear to be a fairly standard Metallica style song at first, but the riff with the many time sigs, the classy keyboard parts by JR and the catchy chorus are all done with DT's usual style for creating a good song.

A song like The Dark Eternal Night is something fairly different for DT, and I love it. Undeniably DT in areas, completely new ground in other areas.

And I have to disagree with you and say ITPOE ranks up there with the classic DT tracks. It has some beautiful musical and lyrical moments, some cool heavy bits and some of DT's best recurring melodic sections (I can think of 2 major ones).

I think it's great that DT are exploring different and perhaps more mainstream styles of music in a very DT kind of way, creating music that appeals to a wide fanbase. Of course, I've never been a progressive fan but really a metal fan. DT's problem is that they appeal to such a wide fanbase, that of course they can't please everyone, but I must say I think the album is great, and knowing DT they will do something different yet again for the next album, and I'm sure it will be great no matter what they do.

[assassin]

do you like them better than under a glass moon, Voices, Fatal Tragedy, Hell's kitchen, Glass Prison, In the name of god or Octavarium? I gave an example of an extraordinary song form each album, and I don't think any of the Systematic Chaos can catch up with them.

It's always great to compare a 7 minute song to a 25 minute epic. In my opinion, none of those songs are way better than ITPOE (well, UAGM, ITNOG and 8V are all really close). The situation would be different if you compared ITPOE to Metropolis (it's not long but it's more extraordinary song from IAW), ACOS or 6DOIT imho.

[Asho]

It's always great to compare a 7 minute song to a 25 minute epic. In my opinion, none of those songs are way better than ITPOE (well, UAGM, ITNOG and 8V are all really close). The situation would be different if you compared ITPOE to Metropolis (it's not long but it's more extraordinary song from IAW), ACOS or 6DOIT imho.


+1111111

IMHO.... I think ITPOE is fantastic, and far superior to ITNOG in all aspect except perhaps lyrically, it also gives the Glass Prison a run for its money.

Just a little rant here, and not directed at anyone at all, but ive heard so many fans say they love SC, so many others say theyre satisfied and whole other breed saying they hate it and want I&W back. MP has specifically said the DT will never repeat itself if it can help it, and the constant comparisons between how songs off SC should be more like songs of album A,B or C are IMHO more than slightly pointless. But then again everyone is entitled to their view, and i respect it totally.

The music on SC i feel is the best DT has done in a few years and sounds fresh (relatively), new and original, in most aspects.

I understand fans desire to have another defining progrock classic, because i felt completely underwhelmed on my first SC listen, but now about a dozen or so listens down the road i totally love it.

[Krahn]

I've never read the interview that DT talked about the album cover of SC, but a Japanese magazine asked Mike about it.
He said that nine ants just meant the ninth album and that they had no hidden message.
Hmmm....that has settled our question.:biggrin:

[BlobVanDam]

I've never read the interview that DT talked about the album cover of SC, but a Japanese magazine asked Mike about it.
He said that nine ants just meant the ninth album and that they had no hidden message.
Hmmm....that has settled our question.:biggrin:

No it doesn't. There are more than 9 ants. There are 11, I think.

[Krahn]

Oops! sorry. He talked about the special edition, not the normal one.

[BlobVanDam]

oh ok. I can't say I ever bothered to count the numberon the Special Edition, so i didn't think of it when you mentioned it

[keyslord]

I have a question!I have the special edition album with the cd and the dvd that has the documentary and all the songs with dolby surround sound but the artwork is like the normal edition and it says limited edition.Can someone help me?

[BlobVanDam]

I have a question!I have the special edition album with the cd and the dvd that has the documentary and all the songs with dolby surround sound but the artwork is like the normal edition and it says limited edition.Can someone help me?

What's the problem? The special edition is supposed to come in a cardboard slip-case that has the traffic light picture. Once you take that off, inside is a normal CD case, and the cover for that is like the normal cover, but with the traffic lights on it.

[keyslord]

What's the problem? The special edition is supposed to come in a cardboard slip-case that has the traffic light picture. Once you take that off, inside is a normal CD case, and the cover for that is like the normal cover, but with the traffic lights on it.

It didn't come with that cardboard slip-case.That's the problem!

[BlobVanDam]

It didn't come with that cardboard slip-case.That's the problem!

Yeah, I figured that's what you meant. It was supposed to be sealed in clear plastic too, to hold it all together nicely.

[rock_ya]

Here's what it should look like (dech2410's photos): http://www.jordanrudess.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8777

[keyslord]

Yes. but it didn't have this slip-case.I bought it from a megastore (rock_ya you know metropolis megastore cause you are from Athens).

[Krahn]

Yes. but it didn't have this slip-case.I bought it from a megastore (rock_ya you know metropolis megastore cause you are from Athens).
:confused:
Somebody may have taken off the slip-case to see the inside. I think you bought the cd without the slip-case. Hmmm....but Is it possible to do that? hmmm...:confused: :frown:

[keyslord]

:confused:
Somebody may have taken off the slip-case to see the inside. I think you bought the cd without the slip-case. Hmmm....but Is it possible to do that? hmmm...:confused: :frown:

No because all the DT limited edition cds in this store were like mine.And closed.

[Krahn]

No because all the DT limited edition cds in this store were like mine.And closed.
Oh....it cannot be helped. That's too bad.:frown:

[keyslord]

I don't care about that.It's OK.