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TheVillageMidiot
04-18-2004, 06:52 PM
Alright guys. My two boards as of now are the original Roland Fantom and a Kurz K2600XS. I'm looking into trading in the Fantom for a new 76-Key. I've got it down to two boards. A Roland Fantom X7 and a Korg Triton Extreme 76-Key. I've gotta pick between the two. You'll notice that thier both 76-key boards. The reason for that is because I don't particularly want to haul around two really heavy keyboards. I also don't need a second 88-key board for what I'm doing. I've done my research and know the major differences between each keyboard. I just need to decide which one I'm going to get.

Thats where you guys come in. In my situation...which board would you get?

I guess you need to know that I play in a Metal band with some prog influence in places. If you'd like to hear our stuff here's a link to where you can check out our demo. Sorry for the quality...it was done in my very basic home studio. Or not...it was online but I guess it was removed. If anyone up here wants to help me out with getting them hosted somewhere that'd be nice. Anyway...if you need to know anymore before helping me out with my decision feel free to ask. Thanks guys!

GregC
04-18-2004, 10:20 PM
thats like comparing 2 saints in heaven and asking
which one is better.

Get the EX 76 and the Fantom XR ( Rack)

Flea
04-19-2004, 05:25 AM
i prefer the triton extreme...

hephiroth
04-19-2004, 07:25 AM
well, i might be a bit biased cuz i have a triton classic, but i really like how the triton works and sounds. i actually have yet to try the extreme, but i know how basically most of it will sound, so i'm casting my vote for that. i have spent a fair amount of time playing w/ the fantom series (various models) in my local guitar center, and, while i do like it, i think the triton is a bit cooler and more exciting board.

now, you've had a fantom, so maybe you're going to be more comfortable with a newer fantom since it'll be like what you're used to...i guess i would have to ask, how much time have you spent playing w/ the triton series? the operating system alone is radically different, and sometimes user interfaces can be something to take into account w/ a keyboard since you'll be spending a lot of time w/ it (as you well know, i'm sure).

the only other thing i would have to say about the triton extreme is...consider what you want to do with it because perhaps you'd want to investigate the triton studio. while the triton extreme uses compact flash microdrive and the triton studio only has a 3.5" floppy drive, the triton studio has a 5GB harddrive for sampling...which gives you a lot of flexibility to do audio sampling in your songs, and you can get the CD-RW drive for that...so...if you really want a lot of song-writing freedom all in one board, the triton studio will deliver that while still being a good live board. the triton extreme seems like it's less studio based and more live based...of course, these are both workstations, so of course they're both excellent in the studio...i guess the triton STUDIO, just seems better if you want to make more music in a relatively standalone environment.

and then the fantom is a whole other ballpark...

not to mention you already have a kurz k2600...

soooo...i vote for the triton extreme, but that's a tough call

-jeff-

maJ estY
04-19-2004, 08:57 AM
I've voted for the Roland, because we've had a discussion about the Korg before. The Triton Extreme is not such a good board and furthermore someone said that everybody has got a Korg and you would sound like everyone else when you've got a Korg. Don't want to make the Korg owners here angry, but that sentence was quite interesting in my opinion - think about it. ;)

You said you don't need another 88 key board for "what you do". Maybe you should tell us what you need another board for anyway, we could be more specific then and give you better hints.

Shreddy
04-19-2004, 10:47 AM
Korg piano's have never impressed me, the new sampled piano on the Fantom X is sweet, 4 samples per note for different dynamics. The Fantom has a number of other great default tones as well Searing COSM is an awesome sounding guitar with feedback etc..

I pick the Fantom.

The only thing I like about the Korg is the tube effects but you can always add Tube Pre-amp to your Fantom to get that added sound.

Ed

enry_xv88
04-19-2004, 11:07 AM
triton rules! Phantom is a great instrument too, but triton is much cooler in my opinion...AMAZING pad and leads... korg's weak point is piano, and in my opinion roland's piano is great... but this isn't a problem, you have a kurz! :lol:

TheVillageMidiot
04-19-2004, 03:51 PM
You said you don't need another 88 key board for "what you do". Maybe you should tell us what you need another board for anyway, we could be more specific then and give you better hints.

As far as now...my only reasons for not needing another 88-key board is because I usually don't have the need to go that high or low on a second board. If I do that it's almost always on the Kurz. If I need to go that low or high with an effect from the Fantom I just use the octave up or down. The other reason is because, as I said before, I don't particularly feel like hauling around two heavy boards.

As far as what I need another board for...I'm not looking into getting ANOTHER board. I'm looking into trading in my Fantom for one of those two boards I have in the poll. I don't really need 3 keyboards, as fun and interesting as that would be. I'm just trying to update my setup pretty much.

MoonDark
04-20-2004, 06:44 AM
What kind of metal do you play? progressive? heavy .? etc...
thats important, because the monster lead in the korg is so dam cool, bu I have never played a phantom , and I have big respect for roland.
BTW , how are the organ emulations in the phantom, and does the phantom have a sampler?

maJ estY
04-20-2004, 07:23 AM
Whhaaaa don't let that Korg win! :lol:

Deceit
04-20-2004, 09:52 AM
Ok, I am a korgster. I voted for Triton Extreme because you already own a Kurzweil K2600XS, which is well known to have great piano samples and presets. Considering Kurz isn't the easiest beast to use at all, the Triton has an easy OS and you can learn how to program in less than one month. I won't tell you Korg Triton Extreme has good pianos or better acoustic instruments than many other boards - if you head for acoustic, you should better check those two sample cards in your 88-key baby.
But I will tell you that the blue monster is great for synth sounds, pads and leads - the filters work great even if it's not a VA.
I'd never trade my Triton Le for anything else (exceptions made for Kurzweils :wink: but I'd buy a Triton Rack anyway), even if it is a diminuitive version of bigger Triton - I love the leads I designed, the presets are fantastic and are no match for Yamaha or Roland.
Someone talked about buying a rack - well man, you have an 88-key workstation which works great as a controller, so just get a Triton Rack :D. Or maybe an Alesis ION and a Triton Rack - the ION is so inexpensive...
Deceit.

TheVillageMidiot
04-20-2004, 01:17 PM
What kind of metal do you play? progressive? heavy .? etc...
thats important, because the monster lead in the korg is so dam cool, bu I have never played a phantom , and I have big respect for roland.
BTW , how are the organ emulations in the phantom, and does the phantom have a sampler?

It's just your average metal with a hint of prog in it. Leads are quite good but I rarely get to use them and when I do the Kurz is enough for that. The organ emulations are alright but I'm still stuck on the Kurz's K-B3 system. The newer Fantoms have sampling but the one I have does not.

Axe2Grind
04-20-2004, 01:19 PM
I voted the X7, Its got more polyphony, better action and is built better. The Korg's are so plasticy and the buttons for selecting patches etc are weak. Thats one of the reason's I got rid of my Triton Pro when I had it.

Over The Edge
04-21-2004, 07:18 AM
Actually, I think they both have the same polyphony.



FL
www.franklucas.net

Axe2Grind
04-21-2004, 07:39 AM
Well, The X7 supposed to have 128 true note polyphony, the Extreme has 120 note polyphony which realisticly means 64 in double mode, but maybe if the MOSS board is installed then you'll get a little more out of it.
But its only what I've read, I may be wrong.

Over The Edge
04-21-2004, 12:38 PM
Got a chance to play with the new Roland yesterday.
I really like the grand piano samples...very expressive.
The sequencer seemed a little un-intuitive. Kinda hard
to get around but powerful with about 400,000 note sequencing
capability.



FL
www.franklucas.net