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Bastardo Demono
06-02-2006, 08:33 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gWlGfvYbVqU

I don't expect anyone to be impressed with this but maybe you can give me some ideas on how to make it more interesting and "spanish" sounding? all comments welcome. if you have been mad at me for constructivly critizing you, here is your chance to blow me apart!

Enigma™
06-03-2006, 11:30 AM
First, don't use the upper register as much. It's not a convincing sound from the LE and doesn't sound that realistic.

Also remember the number of strings a guitar has, just something to keep in mind.

Personally it just sounds like you're playing a guitar sound on a keyboard moreso than playing a bad sounding guitar lol ;-)

Just something to keep in mind.

Bastardo Demono
06-03-2006, 12:10 PM
First, don't use the upper register as much. It's not a convincing sound from the LE and doesn't sound that realistic.

Also remember the number of strings a guitar has, just something to keep in mind.

Personally it just sounds like you're playing a guitar sound on a keyboard moreso than playing a bad sounding guitar lol ;-)

Just something to keep in mind.

ah ok, thanks. what octaves (like between c number and c number) would you recommend I stay in? eventually I hope to actually compose something using this exact patch. honestly I dont even know the range of a typical acoustic guitar, I tried googling it but I couldn't find anything

Enigma™
06-03-2006, 12:50 PM
Well, basically a classical guitar goes from E2 up to E6 if the guitar has 24 frets, though, mostly it'll be 21 frets on most classical guitars, so you're looking at C#6

Now, in terms of the range, most classical peices *GENERALLY* are played in the open position if playing in E, though you're looking at mainly E2 A3 D3 G3 B3 E4 as your open strings so that's the basic range you're looking at.

That's kind of a hint to consider.

Also, there's a classical guitar patch *I believe it's a combi* that has fret noises on key up - take a look for that one - it was a little more realistic sounding.

reznet
06-12-2006, 09:09 PM
As an ameteur guitarist, my impression is that the lead is about an octave too high. I think you'd be playing really high on the neck, and while it's not impossible, it might not be very sylistic.

The scale you were using sounded close enough, was it harmonic minor?

The chords you were playing didn't come through very well, probably because of the microphone, but the low notes were very weak. I could barely hear your left hand playing. Keep in mind that most guitarists can't play fast cadenza-like passages while also comping, so it might be better to record a separate rhythm track, and then just solo over it. For examples, search for The Guitar Trio, Paco de Lucia, John McLaughlin, Al Di Meola. They're masters of this style.

If you do decide to record a backing track, keep in mind the 6 string = 6 notes at a time limitation, and here are some typical voicings:

E B E G# B E would be the "open" E major chord
move up a halfstep for that phrygian sound.

E A E A C E for the "open" Am chord.

Hope this helps.

Bastardo Demono
06-12-2006, 09:30 PM
As an ameteur guitarist, my impression is that the lead is about an octave too high. I think you'd be playing really high on the neck, and while it's not impossible, it might not be very sylistic.

The scale you were using sounded close enough, was it harmonic minor?

The chords you were playing didn't come through very well, probably because of the microphone, but the low notes were very weak. I could barely hear your left hand playing. Keep in mind that most guitarists can't play fast cadenza-like passages while also comping, so it might be better to record a separate rhythm track, and then just solo over it. For examples, search for The Guitar Trio, Paco de Lucia, John McLaughlin, Al Di Meola. They're masters of this style.

If you do decide to record a backing track, keep in mind the 6 string = 6 notes at a time limitation, and here are some typical voicings:

E B E G# B E would be the "open" E major chord
move up a halfstep for that phrygian sound.

E A E A C E for the "open" Am chord.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for responding. Both you and enigma mention a lot of things I never thought of in terms of playing guitar like. I will most certainly have better recording quality than a mic next to a speaker, and will do seperate rhythm tracks using those kind of chord voicings in that range. And I found a better sounding patch on the triton. I think a backing track will help keep me in range and not feel limited at one time.

I am kind of embarrassed by this video now so thank you guys for being helpful!