help me with my big dilemma

[hag]

hello, i'm new in this forum.
i want you to help me with a dilemma i'm going through.
so this is the thing:
the thing that attract me to start playing keyboard is bands like cralde of filth, dimmu borgir, nightwish, and all this black/goth metal music.
so i started to take classical piano lesson because i thought i have to learn classic playing at first in order to be a serious keyboarder after.
i started to took this lessons a year from now and the thing is, i don't realy enjoy playing classic music, and my real passion is to play rock, prog rock/metal gothic metal, black metal etc...
so my dilemma is, should i coutinue to learn classical piano, or should i buy a good synth and start to play the music i love?

i'm asking that because i always thought that classic music is the base for every keyboarder and you can't be a reall good keyboarder if you didn't learn classical playing.
is it right?
because that's the source of my dilemma...

please tell me what you think.

[Piranha]

Depends if you're thinking about studying music later in life.

[-=AnatomiC=-]

I guess, you can ask your teacher to learn you some modern music. You can also ask for some finger exircises, to improve your finger technics. (how to become very fast, you'll need that, if you want to play gothic)

[Staccato]

Hm, I wouldn´t say you have to learn classical music, it is good practice and many songs are great, but it´s not a must! What classical music can give you, even if it´s boring is good technique, and that is a must I you want to become a good player. And now and don´t just mean speed, but every aspect, from playing fast to slow, strong, soft etc. If you think it´s boring.. then look for other challeging music and good excercises..

[Analogkid]

Classical training will give you the foundation to play all kinds of music. Besides it can be heavy and dark- ask your teacher for some Bach!

[Grey Loki]

Not Bach! Rach!

:P

Seriously though - try picking up some of the more 'interesting' classical pieces - the Rachmanainov Prelude in C#m, or the Moonlight Sonata. You'll find that they'll give you some good ideas about how to create impressive, 'dark' sounding pieces.

[normthesamurai]

Whhy not focus on both. I find that if I get tired of practicing classical I can just go on and practice another style and will end up practicing for a lot longer overall then If I stuck with classiacal

[ReaPeR]

I started to play from a little time (about two years)... Even if you go to a modern piano lesson (like I do) you had to study something on the classical side I think... i just started study Hanon (exercises for the two hands)... at the end the technique is universal... after you'll learn it you'll do whatever you want!

PS. If you want to play in a gothic metal or black metal band you can go in a band even only an year after you started to study... there are many beutiful easy songs like Cradle of Filth - Nimphetamine or Dimmu Borgir - Spellbound (By The Devil)

[hag]

the thing is that my problem to play classic pieces is not technique but note reading.

[-=AnatomiC=-]

I started to play from a little time (about two years)... Even if you go to a modern piano lesson (like I do) you had to study something on the classical side I think... i just started study Hanon (exercises for the two hands)... at the end the technique is universal... after you'll learn it you'll do whatever you want!

PS. If you want to play in a gothic metal or black metal band you can go in a band even only an year after you started to study... there are many beutiful easy songs like Cradle of Filth - Nimphetamine or Dimmu Borgir - Spellbound (By The Devil)

Gothic styles are not so easy. NightWish is pretty hard, even after 12 years piano, I find it complicated. I'm not saying it's too dificult, but there is no way I can learn it in 1 or 2 days. A week of decent studying, at least...

[Omega Monkey]

classical music>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>music you want to play

[mlunapiena01]

Omega, as someone who plays classical music on a regular basis (My primary instrument is cello) ... I'm actually disinclined to agree with you...

[-=AnatomiC=-]

I playd classical music for a very long time, and I can tell you, it totaly sucks!!! (well, there are some classical pieces that I like, but I think 9 of 10 are crap. Bach - I hate this guy, but I had to play 8 inventions/symphonia of him)
But, I do not regrett it. Now I have lots of experience, so I can play almost whatever I want.

[hag]

i think you didn't understand my question.
i'm asking if classical music is a MUST for every pianist/keyboarder, or is it a metter of choice?

i mean, if you want to "know" how to play the piano/keyboard you must learn classic music?

if i'll go to a music academy and i'll tell them i have a great technique and i'm wirting music and have a great improvisation skills but i don't playing classical pieces or even i don't playing on a classical piano at all but only keyboard
and my note reading is not something would thay except me?

or you can't have a great technique without classical training?

[Staccato]

You can both have good technique and be able to read music good without ever playing classical music.. but many classical pieces offers you good practice to both things.. but it is not a must!

[ReaPeR]

Gothic styles are not so easy. NightWish is pretty hard, even after 12 years piano, I find it complicated. I'm not saying it's too dificult, but there is no way I can learn it in 1 or 2 days. A week of decent studying, at least...

I'm not saying that the gothic style is simple (i'm not so stupid :wink: ), i'm only saying that you can have a good choice of easy black metal or gothic metal songs if you know the genre...listen to the songs i've wrote before (nymphetamine and spellbound): they're good pieces but they're easy to play!

(i'm not saying that black metal is easy too)

[ChrisMcCoy]

You could always buy the Jordan Rudess Keyboard Wizardry Book and get his videos. Learn your scales, and your chord structures and your arpeggios.
That will take you a long way.

C.

[ReaPeR]

For me you had to keep taking piano lessons, while you play the keyboards in some kind of band you like... there isn't a technical level where you can say: "now i've learned all that I had to know" so you'll have always to study... yes, you can reach a level where you can play all the gothic metal songs or all the song you like but if you stop there you'll never become a good musician... You have to study music and play the music you like...

[PsawniK]

I agree with Omega Monkey. Even the Keyboard Anthology, which in general contains much more difficult keyboard parts than those from the bands already mentioned in this thread, does not compare to, say, Prokofiev sonatas, Rachmaninoff concerti, Chopin etudes, etc. If you can play some of the more difficult classical pieces, you can play any prog you want.