balanced devices as DI-box?

[ImaX]

Hi everybody,

I use a DI-Box to transform the unbalanced signal from my Kurz into a balanced signal. Now I have a Behringer Ultralink (a mixer), which has completly balanced connectors. Now if I put an unbalanced cable into one channel, will I get a balanced signal out of the master?

[Digilog]

If I understand your question correctly then yes, the signal coming from your master outs will still be a balanced signal.

[rutgerv]

Hi,

it will be balanced, but it will not be "galvanically separated" (is that the right expression? in dutch it is: "galvanisch gescheiden"). That means you can still have problems with ground loops etc. I have used the balanced out from my mixer too, but if there's a DI box in the place we play i always use it to prevent hum, noise, etc, from groundloops.

Regards,

Rutger

[John]

For myself, I think I would go with:

Keyboards ---> Mixer ---> Direct Box ----> PA System & Personal Monitor.

My direct box has features on it for removing hum.

[ImaX]

Thank you all! I guess rutgerv got the point. So my unbalanced signal goes in and I get a balanced signal out of it, but there's no chance for ground lift (it's not "galvanisch getrennt" in german).

Ok, I'll give it a try and talk to our technicians next gig.

...I'm pretty sure there will be some hum, because it's a Behringer-mixer... 8)

[rutgerv]

Did you know that you can even get very cool feedback from a Behringer mixer's crosstalk between channels? I used it once to create an industrial sound sample. I have a Behringer mixer which send track 6 and 7 to the alt-out. The alt-out goes to the FX of my Triton. There i use a high gain distortion which really pumps up the signal. Then it goes back to the mixer on track 8 and 9 which go to the main out. So no hardwired feedback. But if i push up the volume of my triton it starts to feedback because of the enormous gain in the distortion. The mixer's crosstalk is also being amplified leading to a feedback. With some extra effects like pitchshifter on a pedal you can get cooool sounds! But watch you speakers.

Regards,

Rutger

[RW]

Ilike two keyboards to be honest. One 88 wieghted and one 76 semi-weighted. For the obvious reasons (well maybe not so obvious) the feel of these two boards are different. with the 88 wieghted keys, you can become a tad more expressive which might be really needed if you're really trying to push your feelings out as well as sound. Not that one can not be as emotional on the lighter keyboard. You can be faster on a lighter board which is great for synth leads. ya see?

Also, no two makers have the exact same sounds. Some boards happen to have a sound that someone just loves and yet the board itself may not be good at controller other synths/racks.

I totally can understand if a board is needed, but I'm a two keyboard guy. Weighted on the bottom, light keys on top.

Peace
Bob
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