Legendary video

[Jwarmen]

Simply amazing

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7286564631223911358&q=caprice+24&pl=true" (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7286564631223911358&q=caprice+24&pl=true)

Btw, is there a off-topic section on this forum?

[rock_ya]

Amazing indeed.
Off-topic from what?? There's no particular topic in this section, it says General Chat after all :wink:

[Michael Troy]

yeah...I love paganini too. I bet Jordan could play this madness much more beautifully though.

nice vid turn on dude.thanks

[Jwarmen]

yeah...I love paganini too. I bet Jordan could play this madness much more beautifully though.

nice vid turn on dude.thanks

You think he can play it "faster + better"? I'd really like to see that. (Not in a challenge way, I'd simply love to see that :biggrin: )

from another forum:

Anievas : 1:55
Ashkenazy : 2:03
Berezovsky : 2:15
Perahia : 2:01
Zayas : 2:02

Richter does it in 1:31

[EloHiR ElEnDIl]

that's was insane!!AMAZING

[Thefunkygibbons]

Bit like JM playing Iron Maiden LPs on 45 to get faster finger speed

Good practice

[drumadima]

guys,PLEASE dont judge the artists by the speed with wich one plays a piece...i get sick when i see this:

Anievas : 1:55
Ashkenazy : 2:03
Berezovsky : 2:15
Perahia : 2:01
Zayas : 2:02

Richter does it in 1:31

cmon,ive been a classical pianist for 13 years now (im 19) ,im now studying on the 1st course of moscow state conservatory.. those numbers dont have ANYTHING to do with music at ALL...WHAT EXACTLY Richter does in 1:31 ?!? why is THIS the measurement....wouldnt it be wiser to talk about the emotions he has/hasn't got,why do we talk only about speed nowdays....the tehnique only is our way to say what we feel on the instrument,not the other way around..oh well,lets get back to this old "jordan can play this 10 times faster OMGOMG"

[Last Viking]

cmon,ive been a classical pianist for 13 years now (im 19) ,im now studying on the 1st course of moscow state conservatory.. those numbers dont have ANYTHING to do with music at ALL...WHAT EXACTLY Richter does in 1:31 ?!? why is THIS the measurement....wouldnt it be wiser to talk about the emotions he has/hasn't got,why do we talk only about speed nowdays....the tehnique only is our way to say what we feel on the instrument,not the other way around..oh well,lets get back to this old "jordan can play this 10 times faster OMGOMG"

I understand your point, and I think about music quite the same way. BUT.. If you remember from music history classes, there was that era, when only technique mattered. Chopin, Liszt and Paganini were those "most known" composers of this era, and if you look their compositions, Revolutionary Etude, Minute waltz, Paganinis caprises, in most of them, speed is "the absolute value".

I think that all music has it's own eras, and I mean this by that:
Classical music has many different seasons, like romantic, impressionistic.. .. .. about 1800- 1900 technique was respected, maybe even too much:P
And the same goes for popular music I think, like, 80's was the guitar-shredding-era, when speed and technique was the main thing, now it's not so big deal anymore, the music is what counts.
We are going trough those different phases again, if I'm correct:P

So comparing these times like how fast you can play Minute Waltz or Paganinis caprice, is totally as useless than comparing how many notes you can play per second, or how fast you can shred, but still we do it...

[amopae]

I understand your point, and I think about music quite the same way. BUT.. If you remember from music history classes, there was that era, when only technique mattered. Chopin, Liszt and Paganini were those "most known" composers of this era, and if you look their compositions, Revolutionary Etude, Minute waltz, Paganinis caprises, in most of them, speed is "the absolute value".

I think that all music has it's own eras, and I mean this by that:
Classical music has many different seasons, like romantic, impressionistic.. .. .. about 1800- 1900 technique was respected, maybe even too much:P
And the same goes for popular music I think, like, 80's was the guitar-shredding-era, when speed and technique was the main thing, now it's not so big deal anymore, the music is what counts.
We are going trough those different phases again, if I'm correct:P

So comparing these times like how fast you can play Minute Waltz or Paganinis caprice, is totally as useless than comparing how many notes you can play per second, or how fast you can shred, but still we do it...


I beg to disagree on the "technique era" thing...
The reason why Chopin and Liszt's music was that way is because they were exploring a new instrument called piano (yes, the piano they used was a new thing by the time, it had a lot of improvements from the previous designs generated by Cristofori) and they were just using their technique to acomplish new and different sounds, for them, technique was the mean to a very defined end and it has ALWAYS been that way. I understand seeing the Chopin Etudes as the definitive pinnacle of piano technique and that was his intention, but remember he did the Op. 10's when he was only 17...he has a LOT of pieces that are more contemplative than show-off(y) as Liszt does.
If you really think Liszt is ALL about technique then go to your record store and find a CD of the Harmonies Poetiques et Religieuses and the Anees de Pellegrinage...those are cycles that have some of the most beautiful music ever written by Liszt, and they have things that let you show-off your technice, like the Fantasia Apres une lecture de Dante from the Italy section of the Anees(...) but most of all, they are things that you should measure by it's beauty and perfect composition instead of how fast you can play them...

Remember, wanking off just for the sake of wanking off it's not making music, it's aerobics, if you can make music while wanking off, then that's a different story...

Cheers!

[Michael Troy]

yeah...I love paganini too. I bet Jordan could play this madness much more beautifully though.

nice vid turn on dude.thanks

Yeah peeps, I didnt mean faster...I meant with more emotion, clarity, and singing tone. One of my favorite things about Jordan is his touch.

Peace

[aibohphobia]

Just to add to your list...

Tony MacAlpine: 2:05

Get the Maximum Security album, quite a good instrumental album.

[Jwarmen]

guys,PLEASE dont judge the artists by the speed with wich one plays a piece...i get sick when i see this:

Anievas : 1:55
Ashkenazy : 2:03
Berezovsky : 2:15
Perahia : 2:01
Zayas : 2:02

Richter does it in 1:31

cmon,ive been a classical pianist for 13 years now (im 19) ,im now studying on the 1st course of moscow state conservatory.. those numbers dont have ANYTHING to do with music at ALL...WHAT EXACTLY Richter does in 1:31 ?!? why is THIS the measurement....wouldnt it be wiser to talk about the emotions he has/hasn't got,why do we talk only about speed nowdays....the tehnique only is our way to say what we feel on the instrument,not the other way around..oh well,lets get back to this old "jordan can play this 10 times faster OMGOMG"

Those number dont have anything to do with the music, I agree.
It's not a measurement of how good he plays it, it's a measurement of how fast he plays it.

I see your point and I agree, but the fact is that he plays it blazingly fast and beautifully so the time has its significance here.

and i'll be the first to reply OMGOMGOMOGMG if Jordan can play this 10 times faster :biggrin:

[drumadima]

I understand your point, and I think about music quite the same way. BUT.. If you remember from music history classes, there was that era, when only technique mattered. Chopin, Liszt and Paganini were those "most known" composers of this era, and if you look their compositions, Revolutionary Etude, Minute waltz, Paganinis caprises, in most of them, speed is "the absolute value".


man,i feel sorry for you,if you trully believe that speed is "the absolute value" for that music....i dont have anything else to add here. those composers were romantics,the era was romantism (dont know the english name for it)...i guess,the name would explain the key ideas of the era.
btw,did you check out chopins other etudes? not that i believe that speed has to do anything with the main idea behind "revolutionary" etude,though.