MIDI input help...

[Kittie Rose]

Nothing seems to be recieving any MIDI data on my computer. It's definitely a problem with the computer as the controller works on another computer with a Sound Blaster Live!. There's almost no options to configure and it's driving me nuts.

It's one of those crappy integrated AC97 dealies but I don't see why it shouldn't be picking it up. It gives an error when I try to select MPU-401 in Noteworthy composer.

[Enigma™]

It's one of those crappy integrated AC97 dealies...

AC97 is a software based engine, and has very little actual hardware running it.

Sadly I had the same hardware and it never worked for me either.

Option: Pay to get a 20$ SBLiveValue or something similar, maybe used and yeah. It's just that simple.

:)

[Kittie Rose]

Well at least I know it's probably not worth it now, thanks. I'll just go up to college a few days early instead of take my keys.

[Kittie Rose]

I just knocked it on and it was working! The only problem is the softsynth/VST I was using, the Minimogue someone showed me in another topic, lags immensely when used with an MIDI controller. It doesn't seem to integrate with fruity loops either which is a shame because that's what I use for making music.

[Grey Loki]

Lag (or latency, to give it its proper term) is a big issue when connecting to computers with MIDI. Unfortunately, the AC97 is NOT the best chipset to be doing this with. It is, to be blunt. mass-produced crap. Get yourself a nice spangly Creative card. You'll be better off for it. Honestly. I have an AC97 chipset in my PC as well, and it blows. Unfortunately, I have no free PCI slots for a new sound card, so i'm looking at external ones.

[Kittie Rose]

So it will work on my other computer with the SBLive? Or do I need an even better one?

None of Fruity Loop's VSTs are slow at all, just hard to find a good one.

[Enigma™]

Well, SBLive will make it work yes. But you'll still have major latency issues when you try and get it below 40ms. The hardware just doesn't support ASIO. You'll have to look into something like an Maudio if you're interested in getting low-latency stuff. I have an Maudio external soundblaster and it's great - my latency sits around 6ms and it's not noticable unless I play a *VERY* fast passage, but even that pushes it.

SBLive would be faster, but for anything worthwhile, you're going to have to spend a few $$ :(

[jeebustrain]

Well, SBLive will make it work yes. But you'll still have major latency issues when you try and get it below 40ms. The hardware just doesn't support ASIO.


ASIO support is all in the drivers. Creative Labs writes shitty software, so you get little to no ASIO support. Use these (http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/). Creative Labs open sourced the Live drivers several years ago and this project evolved from it. It improves the audio and the actual featureset of the card more than 100%. Results are amazing. FULL ASIO support.

From their FAQ:

Q. What kind of latency can I expect to see?

A. The minimum expected ASIO latency is expected to be 5.33 ms (and possibly as low as 2.66 ms, depending on your hardware/software setup).

[Enigma™]

ASIO support is all in the drivers. Creative Labs writes shitty software, so you get little to no ASIO support. Use these (http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/). Creative Labs open sourced the Live drivers several years ago and this project evolved from it. It improves the audio and the actual featureset of the card more than 100%. Results are amazing. FULL ASIO support.

From their FAQ:

Yeah, I used their Kx drivers and they're not as amazing as they say they are. They're definitely handy, and yes they work, but I've never been able to get below 30ms latency and I did everything they told me to.

Maybe I just had a bad experience but I know computer stuff enough to know how to get something like that to work... and unless I did something wrong, *and I don't think I did* the drivers are overrated IMHO.

[jeebustrain]

hmm... must have been the Live specifically. I have an old EMU APS card (has the same EMU10K1 chipset) and started using the KX drivers because EMU never made drivers that would work on anything newer than Win98. Granted, I wasn't doing much soft synth stuff at the time (around 2002 on a 400Mhz computer), but for audio recording it was awesome.

[lighthouse]

well I´ve got the Creative Audigy 2ZS and it suports ASIO and I can get it as low as 5ms even with Guitar Rig and NI B4


Juan Pablo

[Kittie Rose]

I might be getting an old laptop soon, and I'd like to use that as my music makin' machine on the go. I'm thinking about getting a good soundcard but it's hard to find good lappy soundcards. They must exist since so many people use laptops in their work these days...

[Enigma™]

Yeah, I know that the audigy series DOES support ASIO and I didn't have a problem with low-latency recording with the Kx drivers and the Live card :) It was only playing VST's and effects that I started to run into issues and I had a 1.7ghx AMD *not 64* at the time.

I'd honestly say for a laptop, try and find an External soundcard through usb...
I have the Maudio MobilePre USB and it's awesome for what I like to do with it. Doesn't record at 24/96, only 16/48, BUT it's very clear recording wise and does exactly what I need it to :-)

[jeebustrain]

I'd honestly say for a laptop, try and find an External soundcard through usb...
I have the Maudio MobilePre USB and it's awesome for what I like to do with it. Doesn't record at 24/96, only 16/48, BUT it's very clear recording wise and does exactly what I need it to :-)

I agree. The keyboardist in my last band (I played drums) used an M-Audio Quattro USB w/ a P3-800 laptop w/ 256MB of ram and he had very few problems even running on hardware that old.

[Kittie Rose]

Laptop I'm getting is the same. Worked in Dell about 7 months back, and they're giving it to me instead of scrapping it.

[Kittie Rose]

ASIO support is all in the drivers. Creative Labs writes shitty software, so you get little to no ASIO support. Use these (http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/). Creative Labs open sourced the Live drivers several years ago and this project evolved from it. It improves the audio and the actual featureset of the card more than 100%. Results are amazing. FULL ASIO support.

From their FAQ:

I tried installing these as I have an SB Live! and now all my sound is gone. Hardly an improvement. They're terribly complex to understand and I Have no idea what's going on. All I did was install them. I've restarted twice. But nothing is outputting any sound, and no MIDI is being output. Somehow, it plays the welcome sound whne Windows boots up, but nothing else. Please help.

I must have a 24 bit card, but how can I check?

I've looked at the laptop Audigy 2ZS but it doesn't have an MIDI port... I'm trying to find an external one.

[Kittie Rose]

Now my soundcard doesn't seem to take any drivers at all aaargh!