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Hamayra
02-23-2004, 09:59 PM
Hi... I would please like to know, some basic informations about Kurzweil K2600... How can i change patches with the pedal ? which pedal must i put it on ? How can Jordan change his patches in the middle of a music?What the function of the 'Setup' menu ? What is the Diference from the 'Program' menu ?

Thank You !!!...

ImaX
02-24-2004, 09:08 AM
That's a lot of stuff you're asking for... just the most important things:

- changing patches with a pedal: you need an unlatched foot switch (a sustain pedal) for this. Now you have to assign data increment or data decrement to the switch, and now the switch does the same as if you press the data increment / decrement switch, it changes your programs / setups.

- to change it in the middle of music you have to step on the switch in the middle of the music :wink: sorry 8) it may take some parts of a second for the synth to change the sounds, but just release all keys for a second and then play on and you'll have no problems.

- Setups and Programs: the basical structure goes like this:

1) Have some SAMPLES of the sound. They are stored as samples.

2) put the samples together in key range and velocity range as a KEYMAP. They are stored as keymaps.

3) use this keymap as a LAYER, here you have all synthesizer functions
like LFO, envelopes, filter... layers aren't stored sepersately, they are always in use in a program:

4) you can use up to 8 (??) layers in a PROGRAM. They go together, every program consists of layers. This is stored as a program (that's a patch!) and you play them in program-mode.

5) best thing for live usage is setup mode: consisting of up to 8 layers you have SETUPS. each layer is one midi-channel and can control external or internal devices. So the first layer might be sound 58 of you korg-expander, second layer might be sound 03 of your midi-controlled yamaha keyboard, and layer 3 might be internal program 203.

keys88
03-08-2004, 05:56 PM
Hail Imax.
Pretty short and absolutly correct (although there could be more layers in prog.mode if you choose a drum prog).
Good job. Couldn't discribe it better. :wink:

ImaX
03-08-2004, 07:42 PM
Thanx 8)

You're right, standard programs have up to 3 layers, drum programs can have 32...

*Idea* you can make 8 programs using 32 stereo-layers and then put them together in a setup. Then a single keypress uses 2*32*8=512 voices... mmh, the polyphony lacks 464 voices :D

Georges
03-09-2004, 05:41 PM
Thanx 8)
You're right, standard programs have up to 3 layers, drum programs can have 32...

The K2600 generation does no more distinguish between drum programs and other programs. All channels can now have drum programs at the same time, therefore on all channels you can have programs with more than 3 layers. On K2500, you have up to 8 drum channels at the same time, on K2000 it is only one.

The program change only takes a fraction of second if you drastically change the effect or if you change from VAST into KB3 mode (from KB3 back to VAST is fast as usual) because the K has to re-allocate the polyphony voices.

To clarify: A setup can have 8 programs (zones), while one program can have up to 32 layers, which each consists of one (mono/stereo) keymap with up to 3 DSP oscillators (if you wish to have those). Moreover, a setup allows you to trigger song sequences by pushing key. A program does not allows. You can do already alot of your live stuff using only programs (I only use programs) because each layer can be allocated to a given key zone on your keyboard => so in a program, you can have already 32 zones (on one MIDI channel though), so no need to go for a setup. The advantage of a setup is that it englobes also song sequences and controller settings, if you work a lot with configuring these.

Enigma™
03-10-2004, 06:05 AM
*Idea* you can make 8 programs using 32 stereo-layers and then put them together in a setup. Then a single keypress uses 2*32*8=512 voices... mmh, the polyphony lacks 464 voices :D

Not exactly - with the DSP oscillators, they don't use polyphony. Neither do the Sync oscillators. There's then 192 oscillators that could POTENTALLY be in the Kurzweil, just not all of them can be assigned samples. Therefore, the kurzweil ACTUALLY has 192 notes of Saw/Sine/DSP and Sample polyphony, which is what makes the KB3 mode possible.
A tad confusing but that's just how it works ;)

maJ estY
03-10-2004, 08:24 AM
www.kurzweilmusicsystems.com

Even shorter :twisted: