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Are there any specialized wahs(w\Expression pedal) for synth?
Axe2Grind
02-11-2004, 01:11 PM
You can use any wah-wah pedal with keyboards, they work fine. I use the Wah from the Amplitube plugin FX and plan to get the New expression pedal that Alesis are bring out which is designed for both Keys and Guitar....Jim Dunlop or Morley do good wah-wah pedals, Morley also do one with Built in distortion which is good for using with Analog Synths and lead patches. also Boss V-Wah is very cool and works well with keys....
you put it into the plug were you usually put an expression pedal???
or in the control switch plug???
Axe2Grind
02-11-2004, 02:19 PM
Sam,
You need to connect one of the keyboard outputs (usually the left channel as it is a mono channel) into the input of the wah wah pedal and then the output of the pedal into a mixer or amp, The wah wah can be bypassed so as to turn of the wahwah when not needed. Loads of keyboard players use guitar wahwah pedals like Bernie Worrell on his Clavinet, Wurly keyboards, Tommy Barbarella (Prince's old keyboardist & Greazy Meal),
and probably lots of rock players too.
what wah pedal does jordan use???
Axe2Grind
02-12-2004, 09:44 AM
I'd say Jordan uses internal FX of his K2600 to get his wah-wah sounds, as does Derek Sherinian....
Come to think of it I don't remember hearing any wah type stuff on Jordan's playing... :?
Deceit
02-12-2004, 11:25 AM
Maybe on some leads in ToT...
Deceit.
if I'm not wrong, jordan uses a lot of wah effect on his lead solos in ToT...
Axe2Grind
02-12-2004, 03:47 PM
Oh dear, I've not hear TOT.... :oops:
I will be buying it very soon.
I got a "Cry Baby", but I don't think it sounds that good :? do you have any tips on how to adjust it? I wanted to play some funky e-piano sounds over it, but it just sounds too thin in my opinion...
Axe2Grind
02-13-2004, 03:13 AM
I presume that you are using the Left (Mono) audio out of your keyboard into the Wah pedal, you could get a Y cable and plug both L & R outputs into the single input of the wah, that should thicken the sound having both outputs into the wah, increase the volume on your keyboard so the input signal is stronger and then adjust the output volume at the other end.
Can't think of anything else to try....
Tusker
02-13-2004, 06:54 AM
A wah pedal is a bandpass (or lowpass) filter. Ok some of them are multiple filters, but the fact is ... all of that started out as synth modules in a modular synth. The stompboxes evolved is further in one direction while polysynths went another direction.
Fact is any synth with good filters can do a respectable wah from within the synth architecture, from the FX (a wah effect is quite common), or using an external wah pedal.
If the wah sounds thin it is either because the filter is thin (digital filters often sound cleaner and thinner than analog ones) or the source material is thin.
Try adding overdrive, distortion or (a tiny bit of) white noise/inharmonic material to the signal before the wah if it is an analog external wah.
I do wahs before distortion by sweeping a filter or adding harmonics on top (fading in voices that are tuned to higher partials). Sometimes I do a (very resonant) bandpass into a lowpass into the distortion.
Hope this helps,
Jerry
Angelic Layer
02-13-2004, 08:06 AM
Get a Silver machine, there's a version made for bass and synths.
I use the Dimebag CFH (Cry Baby From Hell) and the thing is badass. I absolutely love it. Remember, if you do use a real wah pedal... be aware of where you introduce it in the signal path!
Peace,
m@
merijn
02-18-2004, 04:19 PM
Oh dear, I've not hear TOT.... :oops:
I will be buying it very soon.
Hahaha, oh man! Shame on you! hehe! Sam is right here though, on all his leads, which is a variant of the Liquid T, he uses the Wah alot of times!
The White Raven
02-18-2004, 06:11 PM
so you're saying that i'll not have problems if i connect my guitar wah to the output of my keyboard ??
Spacehog
02-19-2004, 04:02 AM
The output level and impedance of a keyboard is drastically different than that of a guitar... so you may need to do some adjusting of your keyboard output level. You are not likely to do any damage to either your keyboard or your wah pedal, but you might not get a clear sound, it may well overload the circuitry in the wah pedal, causing distortion. Best bet is to try it and see, all keyboards and all wah's are different. If it works, cool... otherwise, you might have to get hold of a low impedance wah pedal specifically designed for keyboard, I believe Dunlop make one. The keyboardist in my old band had one, certainly (I've not tried one myself, the E-mu has a powerful set of filters that I can sweep with my expression pedal to give me wah effects :))
Martin
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