JD 800 leads

[Analogkid]

Hey guys- I was lucky enough to snag Liquid Shadows JD from him last week and havent had time to really sit down and go thru the manual and figure out sound creation from scratch (it looks straight forward). I was wondering if any JD owners had any cool leads they might be willing to share. Also any tips and tricks with this machine would be great!

Thanks

Analog

[Rodolfo Canato]

I have my attempts of Rudess Lead (using only 3 layers .. HAIL TO JD POWER), a Jen´s and a Moore one... I can scan the sheets with the parameters ate the end of the week and send it to you...

JD-800 is great.. but the new waveforms in JD-990 made this keyboard one of the coolest synths ever...

[Liquid Shadow]

I made all my patches from a blank slate patch I had made. It was just one layer playing initially, but all of them were set to a plain saw by default. No pitch envelope, filter was LPF at 100% (so nothing filtered out), and immediate attack/decay time. No effects either. Plain saw. If you can make that again (I did a factory reset before I sent it to you), it's a blast to make sounds with because of all the sliders...it seriously is like playing on an analog synth. And once you're familiar with the layout of everything you can blaze through it, changing waveforms and altering all the parameters like it's nothing. It's a lot harder to do that if you start off with any other patch, I think, because there's so much stuff altered already. With a blank slate to work with it seems a lot easier and it's a lot more fun.

[Zaki]

anyone know where i can listen to JD-990 rack sounds demo?

[Analogkid]

I have my attempts of Rudess Lead (using only 3 layers .. HAIL TO JD POWER), a Jen´s and a Moore one... I can scan the sheets with the parameters ate the end of the week and send it to you...

JD-800 is great.. but the new waveforms in JD-990 made this keyboard one of the coolest synths ever...
Thanks Rodolfo that would be great!!

[Analogkid]

I made all my patches from a blank slate patch I had made. It was just one layer playing initially, but all of them were set to a plain saw by default. No pitch envelope, filter was LPF at 100% (so nothing filtered out), and immediate attack/decay time. No effects either. Plain saw. If you can make that again (I did a factory reset before I sent it to you), it's a blast to make sounds with because of all the sliders...it seriously is like playing on an analog synth. And once you're familiar with the layout of everything you can blaze through it, changing waveforms and altering all the parameters like it's nothing. It's a lot harder to do that if you start off with any other patch, I think, because there's so much stuff altered already. With a blank slate to work with it seems a lot easier and it's a lot more fun.

Liquid,

You kinda hit the nail on the head. Ive been making patched for about 15 years now so actually making one isnt the hard part at this point. Editing them is obviously easy but what I really want to do is clear a space so I can start from scratch. How can I delete a few patches to make room for ones I create and how do I get a clean slate to start making them from scratch. Can you tell I dont want to read the book. :)

Thanks

Analog

[Liquid Shadow]

Here's a rundown. You might know some of it already but I'll repeat it just for good measure. :p

There's 8 banks, and 8 patches in each bank. The top numbers are the bank, and the bottom are the patches within that bank. So when you hit 7 on top and then 2 on bottom, you are playing patch 2 from bank 7. You can go to other patches within that bank by just hitting the bottom 3, for example, or you can switch bank and patch number. I tried to keep everything organized where bank 1 had my leads, bank 2 had pads, etc, and bank 8 had a clean patch, as well as in-progress sounds.

When you save stuff, you just have to push the "write" button, and then push the bank and patch number you wish to save to. Then it asks if you're sure and you just hit yes and it overwrites what was there already. So if you want to save, you have to write over what is already there. I had "anti-preset syndrome" (as LithoJazzoSphere so accurately described :p) where I didn't want to use anything that wasn't made from scratch, so I didn't have a problem with that at all. If there's some sounds you want to keep then just take note of their number and be sure not to write over that.


Up in the left hand corner there are 4 buttons: a b c d. These activate all your layers to the sound. I believe there is a button under them labelled layer/active (or something to that effect), which allows you to switch between 2 functions. When the patch is chosen, it is on layer function. The lights that are on are for the layers that will sound when you play. If you hit the layer/active button, some lights will be flashing. This means that they are "activated" in that when you move sliders, it will affect those layers. So let's say you had a lead that used 4 different layers, and you wanted to change the cutoff to all of them. You would switch over to active mode with the lights blinking and make sure all 4 were on, and then whatever the slider did, they all would do. If you only wanted to change 1 or 2 (or 3) layers, you would have their lights on, and the rest of them off.

For effects, you push the effect button. There are two sets of effects, one with distortion, phaser, spectrum, and enhancer, the other with chorus, delay, and reverb. The first menu is the order of the first group of effects. Scroll between them and use the up/down cursor to select a different effect...when you move the cursor it will fall into line ahead of where it is at. Kinda hard to explain but you'll see for yourself real easily. Then the next menu is on/off for all those first effects. 3 and 4 are repeats of this, only with the second group of effects. Then you have a wet/dry mix for the second batch, and then individual pages for each effect where you can tweak them.





So to make a blank patch, select some random sound. Go to effects. Don't worry about the order of any of them, just turn them all off, and then exit the effects menu. Activate all your layers...this is important, because you'll only have to set everything once instead of doing each layer separately.

Turn the waveform dial so that they are all 1: syn saw. Adjust the pitch coarse and fine tuning to 0 for all of them. Set all the envelopes to do nothing. The pitch envelope, all values should be 0. With the filter envelope, the levels should all be 100, with the times all set at 0. The filter itself should be a LPF at 100, no resonance, no env or aftertouch. Amplitude envelope, same as the filter envelope. Levels at 100, times at 0, except for decay time - make that 0. Sensitivity level is up to you.



But yeah, if you get all the layers active it should be easy enough to figure out how to blank out everything. Then just hit write and choose a number to save that to. Whenever you want to make a patch, start with that blank one, and just save to a different number when you are done.


Also, "common" (by the effect button) allows you to change the patch name and also things like the pitch bend range and what interval the transpose button is set to.

[Analogkid]

Here's a rundown. You might know some of it already but I'll repeat it just for good measure. :p

There's 8 banks, and 8 patches in each bank. The top numbers are the bank, and the bottom are the patches within that bank. So when you hit 7 on top and then 2 on bottom, you are playing patch 2 from bank 7. You can go to other patches within that bank by just hitting the bottom 3, for example, or you can switch bank and patch number. I tried to keep everything organized where bank 1 had my leads, bank 2 had pads, etc, and bank 8 had a clean patch, as well as in-progress sounds.

When you save stuff, you just have to push the "write" button, and then push the bank and patch number you wish to save to. Then it asks if you're sure and you just hit yes and it overwrites what was there already. So if you want to save, you have to write over what is already there. I had "anti-preset syndrome" (as LithoJazzoSphere so accurately described :p) where I didn't want to use anything that wasn't made from scratch, so I didn't have a problem with that at all. If there's some sounds you want to keep then just take note of their number and be sure not to write over that.


Up in the left hand corner there are 4 buttons: a b c d. These activate all your layers to the sound. I believe there is a button under them labelled layer/active (or something to that effect), which allows you to switch between 2 functions. When the patch is chosen, it is on layer function. The lights that are on are for the layers that will sound when you play. If you hit the layer/active button, some lights will be flashing. This means that they are "activated" in that when you move sliders, it will affect those layers. So let's say you had a lead that used 4 different layers, and you wanted to change the cutoff to all of them. You would switch over to active mode with the lights blinking and make sure all 4 were on, and then whatever the slider did, they all would do. If you only wanted to change 1 or 2 (or 3) layers, you would have their lights on, and the rest of them off.

For effects, you push the effect button. There are two sets of effects, one with distortion, phaser, spectrum, and enhancer, the other with chorus, delay, and reverb. The first menu is the order of the first group of effects. Scroll between them and use the up/down cursor to select a different effect...when you move the cursor it will fall into line ahead of where it is at. Kinda hard to explain but you'll see for yourself real easily. Then the next menu is on/off for all those first effects. 3 and 4 are repeats of this, only with the second group of effects. Then you have a wet/dry mix for the second batch, and then individual pages for each effect where you can tweak them.





So to make a blank patch, select some random sound. Go to effects. Don't worry about the order of any of them, just turn them all off, and then exit the effects menu. Activate all your layers...this is important, because you'll only have to set everything once instead of doing each layer separately.

Turn the waveform dial so that they are all 1: syn saw. Adjust the pitch coarse and fine tuning to 0 for all of them. Set all the envelopes to do nothing. The pitch envelope, all values should be 0. With the filter envelope, the levels should all be 100, with the times all set at 0. The filter itself should be a LPF at 100, no resonance, no env or aftertouch. Amplitude envelope, same as the filter envelope. Levels at 100, times at 0, except for decay time - make that 0. Sensitivity level is up to you.



But yeah, if you get all the layers active it should be easy enough to figure out how to blank out everything. Then just hit write and choose a number to save that to. Whenever you want to make a patch, start with that blank one, and just save to a different number when you are done.


Also, "common" (by the effect button) allows you to change the patch name and also things like the pitch bend range and what interval the transpose button is set to.

Thanks Liquid you just saved me about a weeks worth of reading and trial and error. :) !

[Liquid Shadow]

Yeah no problem. :)

[Rodolfo Canato]

As I promised...

I´ll share some of my JD-series patches :-)

Some of they are in sysex format (but this ones will come later)

This first file contains a blank chart for microsoft excel (you can print and use it to "register" your patches) and another 2 charts (my Jens and Jordan Leads).

I also have some other patches, but this ones are exclusively for JD-990 (due to its new waveforms).

Let´s share our JD patches using this chart instead of just plugging the keyboards on our PCS and downloading the patches, you can have a lot of fun programming your JD...

The password is: duran duran

http://rodolfocanato.discovirtual.uol.com.br/disco_virtual/keyboard/charts.zip


Enjoy everyone!!!

Regards,

Rodolfo Canato

[Analogkid]

As I promised...

I´ll share some of my JD-series patches :-)

Some of they are in sysex format (but this ones will come later)

This first file contains a blank chart for microsoft excel (you can print and use it to "register" your patches) and another 2 charts (my Jens and Jordan Leads).

I also have some other patches, but this ones are exclusively for JD-990 (due to its new waveforms).

Let´s share our JD patches using this chart instead of just plugging the keyboards on our PCS and downloading the patches, you can have a lot of fun programming your JD...

The password is: duran duran

http://rodolfocanato.discovirtual.uol.com.br/disco_virtual/keyboard/charts.zip


Enjoy everyone!!!

Regards,

Rodolfo Canato


Thanks Rodolfo,

i still havent had time to sit down and dive into the JD . Hopefully I will be taking some vacation time in the next couple of weeks.