View Full Version : New Korg Triton Extreme
didoxxy
01-15-2004, 08:39 AM
In the Land Of Kurweil Synths...
here you are the new korg Triton Extreme...
it seems to be really amazing...
check out the new features on korg.co.uk website!
TritonuS
01-15-2004, 08:52 AM
The Valve Force-thing sounds interesting... A real vacuum tube in a workstation! I'd like to hear what it does to dist. organ sounds for example, too bad they don't have any mp3s up yet.
Shreddy
01-15-2004, 08:58 AM
That's going to be really cool.
Ed
Deceit
01-15-2004, 09:18 AM
I'm actually CRYING. I want it now.
Deceit.
Kirby
01-15-2004, 10:30 AM
Crappy design! Not as elegant as Trinity or Triton! Why do they orientate themselves n Roland stuff? :(
Scrap
01-15-2004, 12:06 PM
Even a Korg nut like myself feels a bit disappointed by it. They're sticking with the aged two oscillator-subtractive HI Synthesis engine, and brought over their gimmicky 'Valve Force' from the Electribe boards.
... from reading over the specs, it also looks like none of the EXB-PCM expansion boards are supported; only EXB-MOSS.
This looks like a half-hearted attempt to compete with the Motif ES, in terms of amount of sample ROM.
This is NOT what I was expecting from Korg this year. :(
Karmafied
01-15-2004, 12:13 PM
Hi my friends,well i check the specs of the Triton Extreme and i really sad,this new workstation it`s a great deception for me...In the market you can find the Motif ES with 512 M of sample memory,but the T Xtreme still use the poor 96M (the same Triton Studio memory) for sampler.Of course the Xtreme version have new multisamples but its the same Hyper Integrated system,nothing new and with sampler you can go for new sounds in the Triton Studio or the classic version too.
The secuencer it`s the same,the realtime controllers are the same,the touchview it`s the same and the only great thing it`s the Vacum but if you dont have the MOSS board you aren`t capable to simulate a real analog sound.
In the Fantom X8 case i think it`s a similar case,you can obtain 1Gb of sounds and 544Mb of sample memory,a color screen (not touchview) but in esense it`s the same Fantom S88 even if you have the Fantom S with all expantion boards you are really near to the X8 version and with an external sampler or soft sampler you can go for much memory than 544 MB.
Now the problem its in the prices if Korg (extreme version) or Roland (X version) put this products in more 3000 usd it a really bad deal you can go fot the Triton Studio plus moss board and simm for sampler or for tha fantom S88 plus 2 SRX boards and 2 dimms for sampler for the same price.
Sorry but i` really sad with this Workstations `cause i really want a new thing and no a recycle material of the past years...Maybe Kurzweil have the new great synth.
Scrap
01-15-2004, 12:36 PM
Some new detailed info is beginning to trickle in. This is from Martin Hines, who is a regular at the Irish Acts forum and a moderator at Karma Lab -
From what I can tell the Triton Extreme includes:
- some new samples (guitars, woodwind and brass, organs, choirs, grand piano)
- the entire Triton STudio SOund ROM
- the entire
---- EXB-PCM06/07 Orch Collection
---- EXB-PCM09 Trance Attack
---- EXB-PCM05 Vintage Archives
- the "Best of"
---- EXB-PCM04 Dance Extreme
---- EXB-PCM02 Studio Essentials
---- EXB-PCM01 Pianos/Classic Keyboards
This is a good move from Korg in specific response to the Motif ES and a good replacement for the Triton Classic
-- they save on costs by having no internal storage
-- they saved on costs by "reusing" existing EXB-PCM boards, bundling them as part of the keyboard
-- resampling
-- the excellent AKAI loading of the Triton Studio
While the PCM06/07 is a POWERHOUSE (costing $380 standalone), I'm still not impressed. :roll:
Scrap
01-15-2004, 12:38 PM
As an added note... where's the internal HD that the Triton Studio has? WTF?
Luca_Capozzi
01-15-2004, 12:42 PM
I don't see anything really new under the sky. Tons of samples, other samples, PCM Board... only a vacuum tube to get tube-amp saturation.. nothing new...
Thiago
01-15-2004, 06:41 PM
Too much Fantom design, I hate this look...
What the hell is wrong with this guys?, they have all the time to think and in the end make a Roland clone...( in the desing area :( )
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Over The Edge
01-15-2004, 11:13 PM
Ummmm...I am NOT getting rid of my Triton Studio for THAT!!! :?
FL
www.franklucas.net
Drusillus
01-16-2004, 12:11 AM
Too much Fantom design, I hate this look...
What the hell is wrong with this guys?, they have all the time to think and in the end make a Roland clone...( in the desing area :( )
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Yeah but wasn't Roland copying the Triton when they designed the Fantom? :wink: I guess it's payback time.
Angelic Layer
01-16-2004, 09:38 AM
How much is the price?
wacho
01-18-2004, 09:19 PM
I think the same way as over the edge just that i am not getting rid of my fantom s 88 for a triton extreame or the fantom x they are the same just with some more memory for sampling, ram etc. and the desing is the same as rolands fantom .
If korg wants to get out of that hole they have to put more of themselves to make it
wacho
01-18-2004, 09:19 PM
I think the same way as over the edge just that i am not getting rid of my fantom s 88 for a triton extreame or the fantom x they are the same just with some more memory for sampling, ram etc. and the desing is the same as rolands fantom .
If korg wants to get out of that hole they have to put more of themselves to make it
LuCiDe
01-19-2004, 07:00 AM
does the lack of xpansion board option by the xtreme mean that korg wont produce anymore xpansionboards? that would be very disapointig.
Over The Edge
01-19-2004, 12:16 PM
It actually could have been named
KORG TRITON STUDIO WITH TUBES!
FL
www.franklucas.net
Scrap
01-19-2004, 12:43 PM
does the lack of xpansion board option by the xtreme mean that korg wont produce anymore xpansionboards? that would be very disapointig.
More or less, yes. The Triton line is nearing the end of its life cycle, thus the Extreme has nearly all of the EXB-PCM sample data, and no more expansion boards will be made for the Triton series.
hephiroth
01-23-2004, 12:52 PM
yeah...actually since it appears to not have the studio's harddrive, i don't really see that much of a reason for anyone to buy this. Honestly, i think they would have been better off to wait an extra year or something and come up with some completely redesigned and innovative to blow away the competition. maybe you're right and it'll be kurzweil with the new amazing keyboard. since they did basically repopulate their design time, who knows what they'll come up with. for the time being, though, i'll just stick with my triton classic proX...i've never really felt very limited by it. :wink:
-jEfF-
hephiroth
01-23-2004, 12:54 PM
and actually, not to keep rambling, but does anyone else think that people are getting realllllllly caught up with gear these days? I mean, seriously, someone could buy practically any one of the big workstations out there these days and really have a LOT of musical freedom. maybe if i was buying a workstation for the first time, i'd try to get the newest one, but...i don't see a whole lot of reason to keep upgrading every time they come out with something new. i don't know...just my two cents.
-JeffFfFffff-
Georges
01-24-2004, 07:14 AM
Honestly, i think they would have been better off to wait an extra year or something and come up with some completely redesigned and innovative to blow away the competition.
You never know, maybe they are already developping the next completely redesigned and innovative synth. I see the Triton Extreme in the same way as a MOTIF ES or a K2661. Nothing new, only improved to milk the last drops out of an old cow which will be replaced soon. It's to get hands on some extra money to realize the next big R&D thing. Note that quantum leaps these years are difficult and take more time to make in the already mature ROMpler workstation industry - the improvements remain to be made at presets, userfriendliness and sound quality.
Deceit
01-24-2004, 11:04 AM
The direction of improvements is probably new control developing (D-Beam was a great idea), and both even more modeling power and ease of use...also, I think they will try to concentrate in keyboard OSs entire studios, like the first attempts with Triton Studio. We're gonna see some day a full recording stodio in a keyboard, but...I don't know if this is good or bad...having everything on a device has its limits...a computer can have thousand expansions, and a lot more compatibility...well who knows?
I just hope the future monsters won't turn out with "This program has caused a system crash at 01f00x1" and so on...
Deceit.
synthguy
01-24-2004, 06:41 PM
Hm... personally I think it's not a bad idea. Except for the reverb, I love the Triton sound engine, and giving it a ton of samples in rom of high quality gives you a lot of sound power. However I agree that the two layer per patch limit is annoying, and I was hoping the Oasys workstation would have made it this year. Maybe in 2005. But for now, the killer romplers are the Motif ES and Fantom X and XR. I especially like the Fantom.
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