In the search of tone

[Scrap]

I've been noodling about lately on the keys in an attempt to shape together a convincing acoustic piano sound with the character of an old, broken down upright.

MP3 sample (http://www.reprehensible.net/~scrap/kirnbergerboseytest1.mp3)

The setup as follows - dual-layer piano, long release time in the amp section, +6.0dB mid boost, insert effects for reverb, chorus, and simulated body resonance, slightly detuned kirnberger tuning.

Anyone have any suggestions on improvements to make it sound more grittily realistic? ;)

[synthguy]

One thing you can try is detuning the samples from their sample pitch. Kurzweil does this simply by giving you a Timbre parameter, which shoves the wavetables up or down in pitch and automatically retuning them. I get the same effect by using a pitch envelope with zero attack and infinite release, pulling the pitch down a few semitones, and using the oscillator pitch parameter to tune this sound back to proper pitch. With a multistrike piano this can make the different strike samples stick out, as well as sample points, but if you play with it you can get a piano to sound a little worn out without samples sticking out too much.

[Scrap]

Interesting use of the pitch section, Mr. Steve. I've also pondered using a pitch shifting DSP effect that modulates down a few cents via key gating. What do you think of that?

[Angelic Layer]

Sounds too boomy for me.

[Deceit]

I've never understood this in one year of Triton Le 76...what's Gate 1 - Gate 2? By now I've mastered LFO, Amp, Filter and Pitch but didn't use any Gate MS...I think it's the last thing missing in my knowledge of AMSs.
Would you please explain it to me?
Thanks, Deceit.

[Scrap]

I'm not sure exactly where the term comes from (I believe it may be a throwback to the old electronic circuit designs that were used in early analog synthesis), but "gate" refers to a period of time that a sound is on. You can also think of it like a physical "gate". When it's open (ON) the sound goes through, and when it's closed (OFF), the sound is stopped.

GATE as a modulation source in the Karma and Triton refers to "while the sound is being produced." So while there are keys down and sound is being produced, the gate is OPEN (On), and when the sound is not being produced, the gate is CLOSED (Off). You can use this to turn on/off various effects.

You can also use a gate to filter out a lot of unwanted sound in a file/program, etc. basically you can set the gate value to a certain amount to filter out a velocity level you don't want, or for tone shaping variations.