View Full Version : Jordan Receptor Videos Now Online!
rlainhart
07-09-2005, 02:32 PM
Jordan's demo videos for the Muse Research Receptor are now online at the Muse Research website:
http://www.museresearch.com/
Click the link above and you'll see a link to the videos on the Muse home page. Jordan fans will find some incredible playing in each clip, even if you aren't interested in the Receptor itself. Check them out!
hephiroth
07-10-2005, 01:57 PM
wow, these are really awesome! he plays part of octavarium on one clip
great sounds and a cool device...but definitely some excellent playing
-jeff-
Liquid Shadow
07-10-2005, 03:51 PM
Yeah, neat stuff. I think that the video itself is hilarious. My buddies and I always get a long hard laugh from the way they produce these instructional type videos...the way that people move, the constant fade in/out shots, the way that the background keeps changing, etc.
But yeah...impressive playing and neat little device there. :D
Enc3f4L0
07-11-2005, 03:21 AM
I want one! And I'm not even a keyboardist. :D
Great vids.
ChrisMcCoy
07-11-2005, 03:49 PM
I did a google search after checking out the demo and found it in an online music store for around 1400.00. Considering what it does and how many plugins it ships with, that's an awesome price. If I run into that kind of cash...I'm getting one !! :)
Yeah, amazing price - I was very surprised as well!
Now I know where that cool guitar-keyboard-video came from :-)
Since the guitar sounds very good on the video, would it make sense to use this thing also as a guitar amp (which goes into the pa afterwards)? There are just a few ideas flying around, but it only makes sense if it sounds as good as a real amp... :-)
Everlasting_Rain
07-12-2005, 04:44 AM
Wow, what a machine! I'm still shocked after hearing the timpani+pizz string demo... I've to get something like that!
I did a quick search as I was in a hurry and saw its price was 3200$, so online stores prices are half the price of it??? that's quite insane, but really cool!
rlainhart
07-12-2005, 09:19 AM
As I recall, that section was performed using the East-West Orchestra samples, but I don't remember the specific plugin that hosted them. Maybe Jordan can remember....
maJ estY
07-12-2005, 02:23 PM
I am also highly impressed by the Receptor. My kind girflfriend downloaded all episodes for me, and I watched all in a row - I guess my mouth wasn't shup a second when I watched those videos, because I have actually never seen something like that before.
1.400$ for it really seems to be a fair price, although I will most likely not be able to get one in the next couple of years. ;) And I also think that the "promotion" for Muse Research is a little faked, since Jordan plays "only" one softsynth (e.g. the Native Instruments B4) sometimes... I mean that a Sequencer program like Cakewalk or Cubase can do the same. The real special thing about it seems to be that this machine can do so many things at the same time - and actually everything you'll ever need is shipped together with it...
Awesome, but more or less only for Pros because of the price.
It's like a Korg Oasys. It's really worth the money, but who can afford it? :)
ChrisMcCoy
07-15-2005, 10:27 AM
Well,
With a 1400.00 price tag, it's probably less than a lot of the newer keyboards out now. So if cost is an issue, one could always pick up a less expensive midi controller such as the M-Audio keystation pro-88Es to control it, and still pay less than for a Kurz 2600 or Korg Triton extreme or Roland Fantom....
C.
maJ estY
07-15-2005, 11:09 AM
Yes, that's actually true! I have no money for ANY new gear right now, but would you say that this machine can be used live? It does most likely have no patch hold (OK, most synths don't have that), the switch time is probably pretty high nad I'm not sure if there is a 100% dependance...
I think this is more an advice for studios, isn't it?
Flounder
07-15-2005, 06:18 PM
Wow, Jordan looks so enthusiastic explaining it! ;-)
OH MY GOD, IS THAT JORDAN RUDESS PLAYING A GUITAR?????
Everlasting_Rain
07-16-2005, 03:13 AM
I'd say it's THE machine for virtual instruments to be used live, but as you pointed refering to the switch time, maybe not if you plan to use it alone with no other keyboard or module.
Eric Zane
07-16-2005, 08:15 AM
Really awesome seeing using the KORG as well. But what happened to the tune on the guitar, it was aweful. /:
wow thats so cool, how long has this been around?
do you guys rekon that the receptor and a 88 key midi controler would be a better option than a kurz K2600 or Triton extreme for live giging?
im still interested in the gap between changing sounds, would it be good for live use?
hephiroth
07-17-2005, 11:48 PM
well, could you even set that up to switch sounds really fast? it seems like it's not built for quick program switching like a regular keyboard would be...especially if you wanted to be calling up all sorts of virtual synths and stuff...unless, does it have like a "setup" or "combi" type bank where you can make setups where you say, "i want to layer this softsynth organ with these built-in bell sounds" or whatever...?
-jeff-
Eric Zane
07-18-2005, 06:10 AM
Really like the orchestra ending video.
Sounds really nice overall, as always when Jordan demonstrates.
rlainhart
07-18-2005, 09:44 AM
well, could you even set that up to switch sounds really fast? it seems like it's not built for quick program switching like a regular keyboard would be...especially if you wanted to be calling up all sorts of virtual synths and stuff...unless, does it have like a "setup" or "combi" type bank where you can make setups where you say, "i want to layer this softsynth organ with these built-in bell sounds" or whatever...?
The Receptor is essentially a computer, and it does take time to instantiate plugins and load samples, just as it would with VSTi plugins in a sequencing environment. However, it has two features that do make it easier to use as a performance instrument, and with careful planning, it should be possible to instantly change between sounds on stage.
First, it has Multi mode, where you can layer up to 16 VSTi plugins, each with its own set of effects plugins, assign each to its own channel, and layer, split, or switch them with MIDI channelization. Once the Multi is configured, you should be able to instantly switch patches within an instrument on a given channel with program changes, but that really depends on the plugin itself - some will take more time to switch patches than others.
Second, it has something called Z-load, which I haven't worked with yet, but which allows plugins to pre-load and be queued up waiting to be instantiated. I would guess that it uses available RAM to cache the plugins, rather than having to load them from disc.
Both of these features will probably be limited by the Receptor's available RAM - you'd probably need to add more than the stock 256MB to load a full 16 plugins. I believe it wil take up to 2GB with high-density right chips.
I think that Forte by Brainspawn is more reliable and quicker in changing patches than the Receptor.
Just my 2 cents about it.
rlainhart
07-18-2005, 11:29 AM
I think that Forte by Brainspawn is more reliable and quicker in changing patches than the Receptor.
Forte is software only, and so is a different beast than the Receptor. There are actually quite a few software virtual environments for hosting plugins, for Mac and Windows, and they all have their virtues, but the point of Receptor is that it's a self-contained hardware environment and so doesn't require a dedicated computer. Forte's performance, reliability, and compatiblility will depend entirely on the system which hosts it, and so I don't think it's possible to say that it's more reliable than Receptor - some configurations might be, some certainly won't be.
Forte is software only, and so is a different beast than the Receptor. There are actually quite a few software virtual environments for hosting plugins, for Mac and Windows, and they all have their virtues, but the point of Receptor is that it's a self-contained hardware environment and so doesn't require a dedicated computer. Forte's performance, reliability, and compatiblility will depend entirely on the system which hosts it, and so I don't think it's possible to say that it's more reliable than Receptor - some configurations might be, some certainly won't be.
That's true, I completely agree.
But what I wanted to say is that Forte on a good PC can reach high standards on reliabity and speed of patch changing (I use it every day) instead Receptor, I mean NOW and I don't know in the future, is not that fast in patch changing which means it might have some problems in a live situation.
hephiroth
07-18-2005, 02:36 PM
yeah, that stuff is all cool, but i'll just take a good korg workstation on the road
it's reliable, good sounds, and no complications
i mean, honestly, how many weird sounds are you gonna be using live?
and as far as getting better sounds...in a live situation, stuff always sounds worse anyway. any of your major workstations will sound pretty similar with a band
-jeff-
nismael
08-03-2005, 12:04 PM
I just noticed this thread! This is fucking awesome! I'll watch the whole tutorial when I get home. Its so nice to see Jordan play I can't get bored of it. I was jacked when he played the little Octavarium riffs :) The Gigantour is gonna be incredible here in Montreal! I'm so anxious to be there!
Antonio Mazzei
08-05-2005, 12:14 PM
wow, these are really awesome! he plays part of octavarium on one clip
great sounds and a cool device...but definitely some excellent playing
-jeff-
wich one ? =D
hephiroth
08-05-2005, 12:22 PM
he plays an organ part of the song "octavarium"
=jeff=
Antonio Mazzei
08-05-2005, 12:24 PM
he plays an organ part of the song "octavarium"
=jeff=
oh i just got it hahah i haven't see those videos...
i want one =(
Antonio Mazzei
08-05-2005, 12:27 PM
what midi controller is that ?
Antonio Mazzei
08-05-2005, 12:51 PM
triton isn't it??
hephiroth
08-05-2005, 12:54 PM
triton extreme 88
Stargazer
08-16-2005, 11:11 AM
what does jordan play with the guitar at the end of Receptor part 1 ? thx
maJ estY
08-16-2005, 05:49 PM
It's an improvisation, Stargazer.
Stargazer
08-17-2005, 11:41 AM
omg. it sounds very well.
maJ estY
08-17-2005, 04:29 PM
Actually, I remember there was a discussion here in the forum where people said that it wouldn't be so nice, because of some "wrong" or "unsharp" tones, but I can't remember it well, because I wasn't at home while this was discussed here.
However, I also think that it sounds very nice - the sound AND the playing, of course ;)
I can watch 7. video 46842992357646 times again and again.. The he looks really "'interesting'" when he shows the internet cable..
"Over This......... A Single Internet Cable" ahuehauehueahuhae
01:17 - 01:22
Stargazer
08-18-2005, 06:58 AM
Omg. In the receptor part 7, there is an incredible orchestra / strings demo !!
It could be a soundtrack, fantastic sound!
deelite
08-22-2005, 09:53 AM
yo,
I also watched the jordan clips and I was impressed. not really about the performance (I know that he can handle a synth), I was wondering about the sounds he used.
I'm a poor keyboarder and use a shitty M1 as masterkey and I know the most of the plugs he loaded into the receptor but I tried tons of presets, soundbanks, patches..., but none of these vsti's was near the sounds from the clips - except native B4.
please, don't hesitate to inform me about incredible patches for softwaresynths :rolleyes:
greetz,
d-
I found this @ kvr-vst
Part 1. Song 1 - Native Instruments FM7, among others.
Song 2 - Native Instruments Pro53, among others.
Song 3 - Native Instruments B4.
Song 4 - rgc_audio Z3ta+.
Song 5 - East/West Quantum Leap Symphony Orchestra Gold Edition.
Song 6 - Native Instruments Kompakt.
Song 7 - Spectrasonics Stylus RMX.
Song 8 - Spectrasonics Stylus RMX.
Song 9 - Spectrasonics Atmosphere, Native Instruments Guitar Rig.
Part 2. Song 1 - Native Instruments FM7, among others.
Part 3. Song 1 - Spectrasonics Trilogy and Atmosphere, East/West Quantum Leap Symphony Orchestra Gold Edition.
Part 4. Song 1 - ReFX Slayer2.
Part 5. Song 1 - rgc_audio Z3ta+
Part 6. Song 1 - Green Oak Software Crystal, LinPlug Free Alpha.
Song 2 - Dash Signature Eve.
Part 7. Song 1 - East/West Quantum Leap Symphony Orchestra Gold Edition.
maJ estY
08-22-2005, 04:13 PM
Actually you're right, deelite. Although the videos want to show what CAN be done with the Muse Receptor, it's a shame that presets are always soooo bad in comparison to what the instrument (whatever it is) could do!
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