View Full Version : KE Moog Lead - Octavarium 12:16
Luca_Capozzi
06-09-2005, 05:07 PM
UPDATE:
since my sound doesn't sutisfied me totally i've tried to change first oscillator waveform and I've found that using a Square 25% (same as pulse 25%) give a duller sound that is VERY CLOSE to one used by JR.
Listen to new MP3 (http://www.progsounds.com/forum/files/minime/voyager2.mp3)
Hi folks,
I will try to give you all an hint about how to program this cool moogish lead that JR used into Octavarium at 12:16. This is a classic lead sound a la Emerson and its simple to achive.
The Minimoog architecture is THE classic for all subtractive synths:
[OSC]--[4Pole Lowpass]--[AMP]
another envelope controls the filter and is called Contour Generator.
You need three saw oscillators. (as in update disclaimer: use Square 25% as first oscillator instead of saw)
Osc Tuning
Osc1: 8' (standard)
Osc2: 16' (-1 Octave) + -1 detune
Osc3: 16' (-1 Octave) + -4 detune
Osc Amplitude
Osc1: 8
Osc2: 8
Osc3: 3
Filter Settings
Type: Lowpass 24db (4 pole)
Frequency/Cutoff: 277Hz
Resonance: 28%
Env Amount: 40%
Filter Envelope
Attack: 0 (fastest)
Decay: 5 seconds
Sustain: Max
Release: none
Amplitude Envelope
Attack: fastest
Decay: Max
Sustain: 27%
Add a little stereo delay of 400ms and wet at 15%.
Luca
Drusillus
06-09-2005, 06:09 PM
Axiom you rock, I can't wait to try this out :)
I'm starting to get a whole bank of patches that I've programmed using your tutorials, it's an awesome learning experience, please do keep it up :D
Luca_Capozzi
06-09-2005, 06:37 PM
Wow! Thx dude :) I'm so honored.
Luca
CrimsonSunset54
06-09-2005, 08:13 PM
Seriously Axiom... you are such a help. I really had no idea what i was doing until i read your posts! Thanks So Much!
LithoJazzoSphere
06-09-2005, 09:32 PM
I have a patch on my Ion that from memory sounded very simlilar to it, so I'll have to try programming from scratch and compare to see if it's closer.
Everlasting_Rain
06-10-2005, 04:21 AM
Hell, fuck the exams period, I'm gonna try it right now. I want it for the album I'm recording these days!
I'm gonna pick up my board's manual, as it's a long time since I don't program from scratch, and I may have translation problems... even though there are some useful links on progsounds forums to e-books explaining synthesis (for those who might need some more help, just like me).
Thanks Axiom!
Wow! I'll try it in a couple of hours! (actually it means I'll have it set up in five minutes, then I'll play with it till it's lunch time :))
Edit: Woooooooo!!! My Virtual Moog was casually set on 100% filter bend, so when I tried to bend I got this WONDERFUL resonance thingie! I was thinking of having pitchbend wheel to control only the filter, but pitchbend minimum is 1 semitone. Isn't it possible to set it to neutral?
Edit again: I worked it around by setting it to 12 semitones. I have to play an octave lower, but it's worth! I'll post an mp3 if I manage to!
Edit (episode IV): here it is (http://sk84.altervista.org/Synth/KEFilterDemo.mp3). Don't mind the playing, I just threw a couple of notes on the keyboard.
Luca_Capozzi
06-10-2005, 08:39 AM
link dead :\
Luca
Fixed!
(BTW, is there a way to overdrive a filter using the Moog?)
Luca_Capozzi
06-10-2005, 01:20 PM
UPDATE:
since my sound doesn't sutisfied me totally i've tried to change first oscillator waveform and I've found that using a Square 25% (same as pulse 25%) give a duller sound that is VERY CLOSE to one used by JR.
Listen to new MP3 (http://www.progsounds.com/forum/files/minime/voyager2.mp3)
Luca
Grey Loki
06-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Sounding very good. I don't want to create a new thread for what might be a daft question, but are there any softsynths on the market that have that sort of functionality?
EDIT: Ah, nevermind, think I might have found one.
UPDATE:
since my sound doesn't sutisfied me totally i've tried to change first oscillator waveform and I've found that using a Square 25% (same as pulse 25%) give a duller sound that is VERY CLOSE to one used by JR.
Listen to new MP3 (http://www.progsounds.com/forum/files/minime/voyager2.mp3)
Luca
Wow! You can see Winamp show you the harmonics! :)
Deceit
06-11-2005, 03:58 AM
My VST take:
Korg EC500 controlling Energy XT Modular VST Host, hosting:
DiscoDSP Discovery v2.3 (Nord Rack 2 Edition)->Antares TubeVST->Korg MDE-X-> Energy XT Output.
Mp3 Demo (http://www.studenti-copernico.it/our_files/sounds/Winter_-_Octavarium_Lead.mp3) (just some random notes that sound like the riff - I recorded it with my weighted digital piano and my skills are decreasing, I'm not any good).
Sounds a little bit too detuned and maybe the filter's a little too sharp...but I had no time to tweak it more...
Deceit.
Liquid Shadow
06-11-2005, 06:24 PM
What does the 25% mean?
Deceit
06-12-2005, 03:22 AM
I guess it's the percentile of pulse width, which is found in Nord virtual analog synthesizers (like Nord Lead and, of course, Modular - Axiom uses a G2X).
Anyway, I'd still use just saw oscillators...
Any feedback/comment for my sound?
Deceit.
Luca_Capozzi
06-12-2005, 04:38 AM
this is very good, valerio :) compliments.
Luca
Deceit
06-12-2005, 06:25 AM
this is very good, valerio :) compliments.
Luca
Thanks, master.
:D
Deceit.
Liquid Shadow
06-12-2005, 04:42 PM
Hey Axiom, any idea how I would set the pulse width on a JD-800? There's nothing to control that as far as I know...maybe there are different names for this? I do have like 5 different pulse waveforms to choose from...I think that it just might have those all set differently, and you go from there. Not sure though...
Kakaroto
06-12-2005, 06:46 PM
How do you guys upload your MP3's?
I want to upload mine:P
Luca_Capozzi
06-13-2005, 03:54 AM
@ Liquid Shadow: I have to get the JD800 voice list so I can suggest you which one to use.
@ Kakaroto: try with "yousendit" :)
btw, I've tried to make a side flute patch similar to one used in Octavarium track, using physical modeling. Check it out:
Listen to MP3 (http://www.progsounds.com/forum/files/pmflute.mp3)
Luca
Deceit
06-13-2005, 05:25 AM
The patch is awesome. As for the voice list, Axiom, you should check the JD800 sample ROM file you sent me a while ago. I think the "FAT Saw" should work anyway, and I'm still of the opinion that sound is only saw, and the square impression the sound gives is due to the filters or maybe a very subtle fourth oscillator.
I'm still of the idea my sound is too "disco", I lowered the delay a bit but it still sounds like I'm playing some trance thing.
Deceit.
Everlasting_Rain
06-13-2005, 06:45 AM
Very good flute sound, luca. I like it specially when it's played detuned, like a learner. That really got it. I just miss the blow thingie, but it's great as a synthie approach.
As for the voyager emulation, I'm having some troubles in my board. The biggest issue is, how would you translate the 277Hz Fcut off to a 0-99 value? I don't know what kind of range the board should have in terms of cut off, so I can't think of a conversion.
Luca_Capozzi
06-13-2005, 06:59 AM
which board you own? usually the range of a filter is from 20Hz to 15Khz, but I'd check your board manual for details.
Luca
Everlasting_Rain
06-13-2005, 07:09 AM
A Korg N364. I've looked for it at the manual, but it just says "Cutoff F can be set from 0 to 99. As the value is reduced, high freq are filtered, thius producing a duller tone".
which board you own? usually the range of a filter is from 20Hz to 15Khz, but I'd check your board manual for details.
Luca
In case that's my keyboard range, I'd say the 0-99 value isn't linear, because any value under 50 I've tried makes the tone too soft.
Thanks for the help. I'll keep on trying!
Luca_Capozzi
06-13-2005, 08:43 AM
mmm use this trick: pick a sine wave and play an A3, that must be 220Hz. Turn the Cutoff knob until you don't hear any sound.. you have reached a cutoff of 220Hz.. so because sine have only the fundamental and the lowpass filter acts as a volume control over it. do the same with upper and lower octaves of A to find 110Hz, 440Hz and so on :)
Luca
Everlasting_Rain
06-13-2005, 11:00 AM
Good trick! Now I know I should set de Fc to 10 to get the 277Hz, more or less.
Now I'm starting to discover that patch edition isn't any intuitive in this keyboard ... I'm far from the sound and can't find the trouble. Even though this is being quite a great learning experience, although I ain't getting close to that sound I'm discovering how to do other things in the way.
Deceit
06-13-2005, 06:09 PM
Well, if you have no Hertz value in filter cutoff...your ear is the key!
Deceit.
Kakaroto
06-14-2005, 10:52 AM
Awesome idea Luca with that Hz vs 0-99 peroblem!!
Here is the link. I feel a bit st*pid for puting drums on but at start it seemed cool, hehe...
http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31IDVBBJXRUBF33BTW4EKO70JK
Its not done I guess, but I think Its pretty nice. Maybe more Delay and Reverb would make it fatter.
LithoJazzoSphere
06-14-2005, 12:34 PM
The sound is pretty good, but the drums are really distracting. I'd either take them out, or fix them, because they're playing double time (unless you wanted that feel), and they're not really in sync with your playing.
Apparently my export audio feature has expired in Pro Tools, so I'm unable to post anything right now, but once I get that resolved, I'm going to put samples of the patch from my Ion and Motif ES rack, as well as a flute that I programmed.
hephiroth
06-14-2005, 01:10 PM
well, here's my attempt:
Jeff - JR Octa Lead on KARMA (http://portfolio.iu.edu/jhpalmer/Jeff_-_JR_Octa_Lead.mp3)
this was done on my karma, so if any of you want triton/karma specific programming instructions, lemme know and i'll post 'em, but i mainly just followed axiom's advice (although i had to cut it down to 2 oscillators... :( )
-jeff-
Kakaroto
06-14-2005, 02:02 PM
Sounds nice, though on the higher notes a bit too "music bells" like if you ask me:)
About that drums, yea I guess you are right, although when I used them, I did want that double time feel.
About the sync, I don't realy know why, because I checked the timing of both and its pretty synced in every start of a bar, at least. Maybe there are 1-24 notes in the drums (or anything similar) that makes it sounds strange.
Anyway, bad idea with them, hehe.
After more tweaking I will maybe upload it again without the drums.
Thx for the comments!
Luca_Capozzi
06-14-2005, 02:42 PM
well, here's my attempt:
Jeff - JR Octa Lead on KARMA (http://portfolio.iu.edu/jhpalmer/Jeff_-_JR_Octa_Lead.mp3)
this was done on my karma, so if any of you want triton/karma specific programming instructions, lemme know and i'll post 'em, but i mainly just followed axiom's advice (although i had to cut it down to 2 oscillators... :( )
-jeff-
good attempt dude :) can't you just duplicate this program then modify it removing one osc and use both programs in combi mode?
Luca
hephiroth
06-14-2005, 03:11 PM
yeah, in fact, i was thinking about doing that, but laziness, etc...haha
thanks for your comments, tho!
-jeff-
Elderane
06-14-2005, 05:55 PM
well, here's my attempt:
Jeff - JR Octa Lead on KARMA (http://portfolio.iu.edu/jhpalmer/Jeff_-_JR_Octa_Lead.mp3)
this was done on my karma, so if any of you want triton/karma specific programming instructions, lemme know and i'll post 'em, but i mainly just followed axiom's advice (although i had to cut it down to 2 oscillators... :( )
-jeff-
Hi there, I'd like that Karma specific programming instructions please!!! :P I've been all the day trying to get the sound but i'm still far from it... I printed Axiom's advice but i can't program all in my karma.. so if u can post the instructions i'll be so grateful!!
Thanks to you and Axiom for the great lead!!!
LithoJazzoSphere
06-14-2005, 06:46 PM
Sounds nice, though on the higher notes a bit too "music bells" like if you ask me
Actually, to me it sounds like someone is playing Super Mario Bros in the background on it. :)
LithoJazzoSphere
06-14-2005, 07:16 PM
Ok, I had to do some format conversion to get around the MP3 export block, but here's my flute. It has 3 different velocity triggers, as well as a few spices. I'm not entirely happy with it yet, but it's a decent start. Incidentally, this is the 1st clip of my playing I've ever posted here, I believe. :)
http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0GKVNGUMTXSG118L8755WCOSL5
hephiroth
06-14-2005, 07:56 PM
Actually, to me it sounds like someone is playing Super Mario Bros in the background on it. :)
are you both referring to the patch i made or someone else's? i wasn't sure...
as for how i made it on the karma:
you want a double oscillator, single trigger, legato.
OSC 1:
270 - Pulse-33%
Octave: +0 [8']
Transpose: +0
Tune: +0000
Delay: 0000ms
OSC2:
263 - Saw
Octave: -1 [16']
Transpose: +0
Tune: +0004
Delay: 0000ms
PITCH:
Make the JS(+X): +02 and the JS (-X): -12 for divebomb effects.
If you want to be able to go up an octave as well, you can make the Pitch AMS assigned to the JS +Y #01 and the Intensity +12.00. That way when you push the joystick up, it bends up an octave. These are ways to get around having a cool ribbon like the Kurz.
Portamento: make enabled, not fingered, and Time: 015
In OscLfo settings, if you want after touch to make it vibrato make the LFO 1 AMS: AfterT Intensity something small like +00.33.
MAKE SURE BOTH OSCILLATORS HAVE THE SAME PITCH SETTINGS
FILTER 1:
Low Pass Resonance
Trim:99
A::Frequency: 82, Resonance: 28, Reso.AMS: Off, Intensity: +00
Filter 1 EG::
L S:+22 A:+44 B:+52 S:-37 R:+00
T A:+31 D:+80 S:+44 R:+00
Leave the rest of the Filter 1 stuff alone
FILTER 2:
Make the same as FILTER 1
AMP
You don't have to do much here if you don't want. Although, if you want the sound to velocity sensitve, make Amp 1 and Amp 2 have Amp Mod. Velocity Int: settings of about 64 (for more sensitive) or 36 (for less sensitive). Be sure to make these changes to both Amp 1 & 2 if you want this feature. I just left mine without touch sensitivity, cuz I want this sound to be loud everytime.
INSERT FX:
1. 044:St/Cross Dly---make both L and R Delay 400.0ms and make the W/D: 15:85. Leave the rest of the settings at their default values
MASTER FX:
1. 054:Reverb Wet Plate Rtn: 043---Just make Reverb Time something small like 2.5s and W/D: 18.82 or something.
You can always add more effects if you want the sound to able to do other things. Like I implemented a wah effect that turns on by sliding the Slider up and then wahs when you do JS-Y, but that's just for fun.
Hope that helps!
-jeff-
LithoJazzoSphere
06-14-2005, 08:14 PM
I was referring to yours. :)
hephiroth
06-14-2005, 08:17 PM
I was referring to yours. :)
ah...do you think i have my portamento time set too long? is that why you hear mario?
-jeff-
LithoJazzoSphere
06-14-2005, 08:26 PM
I'm not sure if it's the portamento, because I'm hearing it the notes, not before. It might have to do with your ADSR settings, or perhaps the sync settings. Synthesis is still pretty new to me, so some of the terms aren't fully clear to me yet.
hephiroth
06-14-2005, 08:37 PM
hmm...yeah i've been getting a little better at it lately, but i'm still pretty new, too...i'm just trying to make new sounds as often as i can just to get better...
-jeff-
Elderane
06-15-2005, 03:10 AM
Thanx for the complete instructions hephiroth!! It worked!!!! (of course) and I'm trying to put some effects on slider, JS-Y and knobs, but that's easier than the sound programming!
Thanks again!
Grey Loki
06-15-2005, 04:53 AM
LithoJazzoSphere, that is a VERY nice flute sound. I wish i had a proper synth now, rather than naff softsynths. I think the modulation on the longer notes is a bit too pronounced though - is there a way to reduce that?
LithoJazzoSphere
06-15-2005, 10:58 AM
LithoJazzoSphere, that is a VERY nice flute sound. I wish i had a proper synth now, rather than naff softsynths. I think the modulation on the longer notes is a bit too pronounced though - is there a way to reduce that?
Yeah, that's one of the things I'm still toying with, the transition isn't smooth enough yet.
Alucard
06-15-2005, 11:08 AM
really nice!!!
hephiroth
06-15-2005, 09:51 PM
Thanx for the complete instructions hephiroth!! It worked!!!! (of course) and I'm trying to put some effects on slider, JS-Y and knobs, but that's easier than the sound programming!
Thanks again!
glad i was able to help!
-jeff-
Lurion
06-16-2005, 03:00 PM
I just built my octavarium lead on the VAZ modular. Can anybody explain where I can hot it for free for you guys to listen to it?
Thanx!
Lurion
06-16-2005, 07:22 PM
Ok, this is my emulation of the modular lead on Octavarium. As I said, it's done on the VAZ modular soft synth. I'm quite happy with it! I could maby reduce the filter cuttoff a liiiiittle bit more... Hmmm...
http://rapidshare.de/files/2432620/octalead.mp3.html
BTW, that is NOT my playing, since I don't have a master keyboard ATM. It's done on the VAZ sequencer. I don't know how to change between note duration values on that sequencer and so I can't make the triplets at the end. Anyway, it's the sound that conuts.
So whatcha think?
LithoJazzoSphere
06-16-2005, 08:09 PM
A bit too much portamento, I'd say. Other than that it seems fine.
Deceit
06-17-2005, 02:47 AM
Last attempt (http://www.studenti-copernico.it/our_files/sounds/Winter_-_Octavian_Lead.mp3).
Any input appreciated.
Deceit.
hephiroth
06-17-2005, 09:51 AM
deceit, yours sounds really thick and nice. i like it
-jeff-
Tusker
06-18-2005, 10:54 AM
Very nice, fellas. Nice to see the old analog tones coming back. Jerry
Deceit
06-18-2005, 12:11 PM
Check this out:
http://glenstegner.com/softsynths.html
The "voyager salad surgery" (or whatever, it's clearly an ELP - Brain Salad Surgery lead emulation) preset in MinimogueVA fits very well for that riff.
Also, the VST itself sounds really good, if maybe not as perfect as Arturia or GForce minimoog emulations.
Deceit.
Alucard
06-23-2005, 11:14 AM
Here my attempt on doing that fuckin'great sound.
The first version sounded too "bellish" but after some work here the result:
Octolead (http://www.progsounds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=78)
Luca_Capozzi
06-23-2005, 11:30 AM
excellent!!! :)
Luca
Deceit
06-23-2005, 11:38 AM
Here my attempt on doing that fuckin'great sound.
The first version sounded too "bellish" but after some work here the result:
Octolead (http://www.progsounds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=78)
Good job! Could you post the PCG, on PS maybe?
Deceit.
hephiroth
06-23-2005, 03:17 PM
alucard, what board is that on?
it sounds really nice and thick, yet smooth. like a good milkshake
-jeff-
Alucard
06-23-2005, 05:53 PM
<<<<<<<<thank you jeff>>>>>>>>It's a Triton Rack(with some cheats eheheh)...
Alucard
06-23-2005, 08:06 PM
@Deceit:
As soon as possible i'll sent the pcg to Luca, for the "hidden" upload on PS.
Btw the patch is great but people will have to work a little to obtain the sound i posted. (work on filter's eg, lfo's and mostly on fx). But it's a good starting point (80% of the job is already done).
Deceit
06-24-2005, 03:41 AM
(with some cheats eheheh)...
people will have to work a little to obtain the sound i posted. (work on filter's eg, lfo's and mostly on fx)
You're really making me curious about this sound...have you installed a MOSS on the Triton Rack? Is there some external tweaking or something?...
C'mon, I can't sleep...
Anyway, working on a handful of parameters isn't a problem for me...in fact I think I could figure out something about that lead, but you know, I'm just too lazy to leave my armchair, so I did everything with vsts (and I thought about sampling the dry lead, but didn't find a decent loop point).
Deceit.
Alucard
06-24-2005, 07:45 AM
No Moss installed, it's all in the effects...and for a part of the fx chain i used some outboards... That's all...but you will see that the sound also without effects is all here, it just needs to be shaked.
What you've all come up with is amazing...can someone help me out with how to get started on programming this on my Fantom X8? I wish I still had my 2600 (its in the shop till mid-July) cause I would be able to do it on that since Axiom's mapout of the effects and everything resembles some of the things in the 2600 (unless you did that on a Kurzweil, then that would explain it!) but if anyone knows how to start programming this on let's say...a Fantom X8 ;) that would be great...
Also, is there a working transcription of this ? I don't have perfect pitch but I know it's moving between I-v progression for most of it (as is the most cd) and that riff is an esus4 moving to b minor, but I can't get the small quick licks and transitions he's playing...anyone have this midi'd or written out yet ?
Kakaroto
06-26-2005, 09:22 PM
I found that out (the quick licks)...
I created my patch on the Fantom X8..
He it is (newer version than before).
http://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YHRY8HEKGDM12CQI404YQ5RAI
I still need to work on it quit a lot, but I guess its on the right way.
Everytime I hear it and compare it I change it, then it sounds great, then after a while I hear it again and don't love it...hehe, its always like that...
What I did is intialized a patch, chose 3 waveforms (out of 4). Two saws and one square as Axiom suggested (like most of my patch).
Then just follow Axiom's suggestions. Most of them I'm not sure you can do, because the Fantom has different values, and I'm not sure you can tweak every single thing there. But you can do most of them.
You can adjust the amplitude, in the TVA filter. The fantom can change the actuall waveform's amplitude (sample's amplitude) using a time variant amplitude filter. Its quite amazing, though I still don't know how to use this option 100%.
After all that go to the effects and choose chorus and reverb on. I found that a nice amount of chorus realy changes the patch for good. Remember to specify the reverb and chorus for each WAVE because on the effects page you can only change the first wave's values. In patch edit you can find somewhere a place to change every wave's values.
Just follow Axiom's words..Tell me if you need anything else, I'll try to help if I can.
Hope I helped;)
LithoJazzoSphere
06-27-2005, 12:13 AM
I've given up trying to get all of the runs up to speed smoothly for now, so on Tuesday (or maybe even tomorrow evening) I'm going to post the basic riff as I've modeled it on my MoESR and Ion.
I found that out (the quick licks)...
I created my patch on the Fantom X8..
He it is (newer version than before).
http://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YHRY8HEKGDM12CQI404YQ5RAI
I still need to work on it quit a lot, but I guess its on the right way.
Everytime I hear it and compare it I change it, then it sounds great, then after a while I hear it again and don't love it...hehe, its always like that...
What I did is intialized a patch, chose 3 waveforms (out of 4). Two saws and one square as Axiom suggested (like most of my patch).
Then just follow Axiom's suggestions. Most of them I'm not sure you can do, because the Fantom has different values, and I'm not sure you can tweak every single thing there. But you can do most of them.
You can adjust the amplitude, in the TVA filter. The fantom can change the actuall waveform's amplitude (sample's amplitude) using a time variant amplitude filter. Its quite amazing, though I still don't know how to use this option 100%.
After all that go to the effects and choose chorus and reverb on. I found that a nice amount of chorus realy changes the patch for good. Remember to specify the reverb and chorus for each WAVE because on the effects page you can only change the first wave's values. In patch edit you can find somewhere a place to change every wave's values.
Just follow Axiom's words..Tell me if you need anything else, I'll try to help if I can.
Hope I helped;)
What do you mean by initiate? How did you find a blank patch to work on ? Or did you just click the layer split button and just add the 3 waves in there and do your stuff?
Analogkid
07-13-2005, 08:36 AM
UPDATE:
since my sound doesn't sutisfied me totally i've tried to change first oscillator waveform and I've found that using a Square 25% (same as pulse 25%) give a duller sound that is VERY CLOSE to one used by JR.
Listen to new MP3 (http://www.progsounds.com/forum/files/minime/voyager2.mp3)
Hi folks,
I will try to give you all an hint about how to program this cool moogish lead that JR used into Octavarium at 12:16. This is a classic lead sound a la Emerson and its simple to achive.
The Minimoog architecture is THE classic for all subtractive synths:
[OSC]--[4Pole Lowpass]--[AMP]
another envelope controls the filter and is called Contour Generator.
You need three saw oscillators. (as in update disclaimer: use Square 25% as first oscillator instead of saw)
Osc Tuning
Osc1: 8' (standard)
Osc2: 16' (-1 Octave) + -1 detune
Osc3: 16' (-1 Octave) + -4 detune
Osc Amplitude
Osc1: 8
Osc2: 8
Osc3: 3
Filter Settings
Type: Lowpass 24db (4 pole)
Frequency/Cutoff: 277Hz
Resonance: 28%
Env Amount: 40%
Filter Envelope
Attack: 0 (fastest)
Decay: 5 seconds
Sustain: Max
Release: none
Amplitude Envelope
Attack: fastest
Decay: Max
Sustain: 27%
Add a little stereo delay of 400ms and wet at 15%.
Luca
Axiom,
My moog sounds EXACTLY like that without all the work ;-)
Luca_Capozzi
07-13-2005, 08:51 AM
Perhaps because you own a Moog? :D
btw, i've found that this sound can be nicer using only two oscillators: Square 25% first and Square 50% as second.
Luca
Lyngs
07-18-2005, 09:14 AM
I think it's about time I give my contribution:
The moog-section created on a Nord Lead 3:
http://www.progsounds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=86&stc=1
Edit: Oh, and sorry about the poor recording quality - this is a reaaaally cheap and bad thin cable directly into the soundcard, so there's some buzz and clicks in the recording, but it should give an impression of the sound anyway.
Luca_Capozzi
07-18-2005, 09:34 AM
lyngs, you rock as ever dude :)
Luca
Lyngs
07-20-2005, 11:46 AM
Thanks Luca! :)
BlobVanDam
07-21-2005, 05:44 AM
Thanks Luca! :)
I agree with him. That was awesome. It sounded like you were playing the exact right notes too. Not to sound cocky, but were you playing from my transcription? (the link in my sig).
Here is my attempt at the lead sound using SampleTank. I'd love to say that it's me playing, but it's just from my MIDI file.
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BAKWKEKMN8433G2RWS9YHU47Q
blob vandam nice playing and the sound is great too
could you send me the backing track to play over it pls i transcribed the solo too
Luca_Capozzi
07-21-2005, 10:08 AM
click on his home page on signature. he have a midi file for that.
Luca
Luca_Capozzi
07-22-2005, 03:49 PM
ok.. i've tried it
Download MP3 Now!!! (http://www.lucacapozzi.net/files/8va-FC.mp3)
This is Full Circle section of octavarium sequenced using Blob midi file. All sounds, exept drums, went from my G2X. The moog lead and JR Lead (when are on unison) are patches of mine, bass comes from other user and all other sounds are just presets.
Luca
Lyngs
08-05-2005, 01:51 AM
I agree with him. That was awesome. It sounded like you were playing the exact right notes too. Not to sound cocky, but were you playing from my transcription? (the link in my sig).
Thanks dude - and no, I transcribed it by ear. In the long run, you're much better off by doing it yourself - especially when you have a background as classical pianist and have in the past been playing everything from sheets. :)
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