Synthesizers can be anything just like JR said

[keyboard hunger]

hi,

Today i played a Judas Priest guitar solo from the song painkiller note for note on the keyboard within 5 seconds i will make a mp3 and put in on the forum in a few weeks.

I will get a webmaster deal soon.

I was surprised after i thought yes synthesizers can sound like any instrument i want it to sound all you need is good ears and that's it.

To me there is just no diffirence between a synthesizer or any instrument apart from you can play more complex things on a keyboard and faster.


People moan about synthesizers for nothing because they have no clue especially those punk rock fans which i hate.

[Hustafaben]

Sounds exactly like a distorted guitar? Thats amazing if its true. The only instruments I have never been happy with on synths were the guitars and the horns.

[keyboard hunger]

You can get a real distorted guitar i have a Korg M1 and i got a real Les paul guitar sound with tons of distortions and harmonics it is tremondus try using a distortion pedal.

[Over The Edge]

Yeah, that's pretty much true to an extent!




FL
www.franklucas.net

[Mrniceguy]

I disagree.
I don't believe synthesizers will ever come close to a distorted guitar if the guitar sound isn't very wet or muddy.

[MoonDark]

Enigma built a pretty cool guitar patch on his KC2600
but you can't imitate the riff, I Think that is unique...
And you can only imitate, it can't be the same thing, one is digital , the guitars are phisical

[Bastardo Demono]

you can get respectablly close to many instruments, but this day in age it is still far off. but I hear they bit soon start introducing 24 bit samples so who knows how good things will start sounding soon.

and even if the digital signal because so realistic only computers can tell it apart, there will still be the physical limitations of the keyboard. how can a keyboard mimic all of the picking techniques guitarists use for instance?

[Enigma™]

There are ways. That's WHY physical controllers were created on keyboards.
I could assign different picking techniques to attack velocity and a slider, so when I play, if I play really lightly, it'd be a harmonic, but if I play really hard, it'd be something completely different ;)
There ARE ways, but it's also having a synth that's capable enough to handle it :)

[ImaX]

The question is also - why do you want to play like another instrument? A guitarist also doesn't want to play piano parts :wink:

I think it's much cooler to use different types of physical controllers to control synth-effects, for example using a breath controller for a filter sweep or a beam controller for attack time or whatever - these are things you can just do with synths and that's what you should try to do.

keyboardist often have the image just to be there for just pushing some knobs and then get an orchestera or s special instrument out of the board, they are sometimes not seen as an own instrument - of course, if anybody knows something about music he doesn't think so, but some poeple do. So I'd prefer to use cool synth-sounds instead of trying to play another instrument on my synth. 8)

[Over The Edge]

Listen to early albums by Tom Coster and Jan Hammer.
A LOT of those so called guitar leads are a Moog Liberation
running through a multude of fuzz/dist. boxes. They sound
absolutely convincing. Listen to the Miami Vice Theme Song too.
No real guitars in it.



FL
www.franklucas.net

[keyboard hunger]

yeah i liked every single thing everyone said about synthesizers.


Let me tell you about me i have a Korg M1 and i get a real distorted guitar i also make it sound like if i am picking really fast or add a harmonic to it i will try putting that patch up soon.


it sounds just like someone is playing a guitar with a cool style.

[keyboard hunger]

Jordan Rudess has used guitar sounds millions times but it is hard to know who it playing what so go to Michaeltross.com and read his bio he also a great keyboard player..

[Angelic Layer]

As a keyboardist and guitarist I can say that nothing can emulate a guitar's sound.

[Jerry]

The question is also - why do you want to play like another instrument?

Amen. It's a very good question. You used to be able to get 90% of many instruments. Now maybe 99%. In the next decade maybe 99.99%. There will always be a real and a false in many people's minds.

Instead of mimicing an instrument, figure out what aspects of it you like (aggression, tone, bends, vibrato, attack) then mix it with other influences to make your own new instrument.

There is nothing new under the sun. The guitarists wah was influenced by the trumpet wah which was influenced by the human wah. So make your own wah if you like. It could be wai or weooo or anything you like.

The guitarists vibrato was influenced by the violinists vibrato but is different (one sided) like a wind instrument vibrato. Make your own.

Just some additional thought. The attack is part of the piano, and is natural to keyboardists physical action. I see a lot of keyboardists giving up on a natural attack so as not to sound like a guitar. I think we can design our own unique keyboardish attacks as well for certain roles. Just because another instrument in the band does a certain rhythmic pattern does not mean we have to give up on comping. There is no reason for you to restrict yourself to monophonic leads.

Chart a good course ... and people will follow you.

Jerry