Many Presets

[merijn]

Can you guys recommend me a Synth that has already many presets and many sounds already programmed in? I would like to have a synth wich has the ability to mix many aspects of the sound, but with those allready programmed sounds aswell. That's because I'm not quite good at mixing yet, and untill the time I can, I want to be using nice patches for my projects and peformances. Thank you in advance! :)

[Cary]

Do you need a synth or will a module do? Roland JV-1010 module has over 1000 voices.

[Over The Edge]

Korg Triton Le
Alesis Q series boards


FL
www.franklucas.net

[merijn]

I'm looking for a keyboard version, not a rack. Although an additional rank isn't such a bad idea. I was hoping that the Karma of the tritons could bring me good fortune. I'll check out that Roland JV! Thanks! :)


I checked it out and, here it is.


http://www.polimusica.es/ofertas/oferta5.jpg

I must day it looks cool! I´ll take that into consideration! But I do need a mainboard, I need to ´´physically talk to the board´´, like Jordan can say so beautifully! :D

[Spacehog]

The E-MU PK-6 ships with 640 (well, 639 actually - there's one blank one) patches by default... it'll also hold 3 expansion ROMs, typically with 384 or 512 patches on them, and at the moment in the US the synth is $399 (from ZZSounds and Sam Ash) and ROMs start from $79 (direct from E-MU)... if you are looking for a rack, the Proteus 2000 ships with something like 1150 patches!

Martin

[Georges]

In this area, Roland is unbeatable. That's why it is used so often in studios, because it provides many standard presets at a glance. Devices to recommend are: JV-2080, XV-3080. Do not forget to get some great expansion boards as well ...

[Luca_Capozzi]

most inexpensive think is to setup a pc for that... using gigastudio with a good audio card (with giga drivers) and you can load a lot of sounds. but, if you need pure synthesis, look forward for something else.

see ya

[merijn]

Hmm, yes. I see. It's just that I need a good board now. I know that the sounds are easely to buy along with the board. My main board now is a Roland E-86 and I have an additional Roland Juno-1. Yes, indeed.. VERY old. The e-86 is basically an arranger keyboard, wich is cool in it's own way, but I miss those ''synthy'' sounds. Like good leads etc, Synth pads etc.

[maJ estY]

D'OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So many people posted and NOBODY proposed the Roland XP-30!?

Conspiracy: Don't listen to what the others say! The XP-30 is EXACTLY what you want. The XP-30 is nearly the same like the JV-1010, only more! Compare the JV-1010 and the XP-30. You'll see what I mean. You have got the Exansion Boards, which are already built in. You really have more than 1000 (ONE THOUSAND THAT IS!!!) preset patches, plus more than 40 effects, which means that you even COULD mix and create own cool sounds.
If you have any question referring to the board, ask tusker (or me, but tusker knows more about it than I do! ;) )

[synthguy]

I was going to suggest the Roland XP-30, I usually do because it's an incredible synth for the money. Less than $1000 US almost everywhere, and it comes with over 1400 very good patches and sound roms from the Techno, Session and Orchestral collection, with room for two more SR-JV boards. The Emu is a great synth, but the Roland has better overall samples, a much more advanced synthesizer engine and much better effects. When you get into programming, you'll go a lot farther with the XP-30.

However, the Karma is a wonderful synth. It won't sample like a Triton, but it has the tasty Triton synth engine and effects, and room for two Korg expansion roms. Plus the KARMA algorithmic composer is an incredible resource, like an advanced arranger function, which you can use for inspiration, or even include in sequences. It also has room for a very powerful MOSS six voice synthesizer board. It's pretty easy to understand and use, and the sequencer is huge and very potent. A more advanced synthesizer is the new Roland Fantom S or original Fantom. They have slightly better samples in them, and a much better synthesizer engine and some better effects, as well as sampling, and it can be expanded with wonderful SRX expansion boards which have some of the best samples in the market. Another choice would be the new Yamaha Motif ES, which has a huge 175 megabyte sound rom, compared to the Karma's 48 meg and Fantom's 64 meg. It is supposed to have a reworked Yamaha synthesizer engine with very good filters and effects and some clever arpeggiator functions, and it samples as well. It can be expanded with some excellent synthesizer boards, with analog, physical modelling, piano and percussion boards, which are separate instruments themselves like the MOSS board. The Motif ES is 128 voice while the Karma is 62 and Fantom is 64 voice, so you can make some pretty full compositions on its sequencer without any expansion boards installed. It has some of the best grand pianos in a sound rom. The Motif is supposed to be a little harder to understand, but no one says it's all that difficult to learn.

The Fantom and Motif have four layers while the Karma has two, so they can sound "bigger" or get more complicated sounds, but the Karma doesn't sound thin or weak at all. The Fantom has better sounding expansion boards, but any one of those three will give you a fantastic synthesizer which you can use to create any type of song or sound you want. Oh, and I'm assuming you know about the Kurzweil 2600S. ;)

[merijn]

Well, Thank you SOOO mcuh Jan and Synthguy! The XP-30 is the one I will be after to check it out. I have allready done some research done on the Fantom S 88. That would be a great board too! As for the karma, I have downloaded the video, and it appears to me that it's a ''lazy'' board :D. What I mean by that is that you have to press one single button, and your chord wll pe arpeggiated. To get those nice tunes, one press on the button will do. I'm more the type who wants to do the cool and fast soloing myself, like Jordan. And ofcourse the Kurzweil 2600X is my dreamboard. That's the one on the top of my list. But for me it is inaffordable. Too young and my wages are too low to make saving worth. When I want to buy a kurz in the Netherlands, it would take me a year or 3 to save my complete income. Little too much. That's why i want a less expensive board to create nice sounds. And these brands that have come by are more affordable for me :D. Thank you all for your help and
time! :D 8)

EDIT: How about the Roland XP-80, what are the diffirences of the XP 80 and Xp 30?

[Shreddy]

Another Roland suggestion here.

A good number of my tones used are stock tones with some minor effect or attack/sustain edits.

Any newer Roland which takes either SRJV or SRX expansion cards would be a fantastic route to go. You may want to consider the XP30 because it comes with about 3 expansion cards built into its ram. Lots and lots of presets.

My XV88 has 2 SRJV and 2 SRX slots, so far I have Orch1, Vintage Synth and Symphonic Strings. Lots of Metal can be played with those 3 cards. I have room for another SRX card still not sure what I'm going to get though.

Ed

[maJ estY]

Conspiracy: A XP-30 does also have an arpeggiator! :P
Even though the XP-30 arpeggiator can't do so many things like the Karma arpeggiator. ;)

Shreddy brought up a good point, too! The XP-30 is for SR-JV boards only. They are much smaller than the newer ones like Shreddy explained... Think about it!

[JackJens]

well....I think that : YAMAHA Motif ES

is better than : Roland Fantom S & Korg KARMA !!!!

[merijn]

Thank you again Ed and Jan! This weekend I will visit the local music store and play on the board! The expension boards are allready built-in?

And JAckjens, since you have the coolest gear EVER, I will suratinly visit your place, some day. Maby next year when I will be in Italy again. :D

[JackJens]

Thanx a lot man.....

I'll wait you here in Italy.....

Great gears, great women great wines !!!!

[merijn]

Wouw, The pleasure is COMPLETELY at my side! ! Love to see you shredding on that treasure chamber! And the ''femina'' (alberto tought me 8) ) are nice indeed, not to mention the wine. And ofcourse the Pasta. Looking forward already! :D

[Shreddy]

The expension boards are allready built-in?


What they did was take 3 of the SRJV ROMs and dump them into the board's internal memory. I think its Session, Orchestra 1, and something else. Can anyone verify which cards are in the XP30?

If you want to hear the SRX cards they have some demos on Roland's site. Hook up your head phones to the PC and hit this (http://www.rolandus.com/products/details.asp?CatID=13&SubCatID=55&ProdID=SRX-01&PageMode=15) link.

At the bottom of the page go to the Interactive flash page.

ed

[Digilog]

The three cards are Session, Orch 1, and Techno :)

[merijn]

Wow, amazing stuff! :shock: But eh, are all those SRX cards included? Srx 1-9? I definately want the Srx-2, the piano upgrade. Wich boards are included? And we are still talking about the XP-30, because I saw a Fantom S 88 in the screen. :D

[Jerry]

Wow, amazing stuff! :shock: But eh, are all those SRX cards included? Srx 1-9? I definately want the Srx-2, the piano upgrade. Wich boards are included? And we are still talking about the XP-30, because I saw a Fantom S 88 in the screen. :D

The XP30 doesn't come with any SRX boards. Nor can you add any of them. It does come with the SRJV boards that synthguy mentioned...

I was going to suggest the Roland XP-30, I usually do because it's an incredible synth for the money. Less than $1000 US almost everywhere, and it comes with over 1400 very good patches and sound roms from the Techno, Session and Orchestral collection, with room for two more SR-JV boards.

- The SR-JV boards were designed for the JV/XP series (like the xp30).
- The SRX boards were designed for the newer XV series (like the Fantom).

The SRX boards are typically made up of three or more SR-JV boards with some improvements in sample size, sampling rate, etc. The SRX piano board is a new board. There is not a SR-JV equivalent. The SRJV piano board is not comparable (not even close).

So if you want the SRX piano, you gotta get an XV/Fantom board. But the XP30 is still good value for money, if you are willing to compromise in this area. :D

If you are not in a hurry, wait till Winter Namm (in January) new announcements should trigger some changes in retail prices pretty quickly.

Hope this helps,

Jerry

[maJ estY]

You have to look at it like that the SR-JV cards are the "older" ones and the others are the newer ones. The difference is that the SRX cards are much bigger. While SR-JV cards come with approx. 8MB and the SRX cards with more than 60MB. Even though you'll find many senseless patches on the SRX cards then. Note that the quality is the same!
AND you have to know that there are many many more JV cards available at the moment than SRX cards!

[merijn]

Thank you beautiful and helpfull people! It is all clear to me now! And Ed, I'll wait. Infact I haven't got to financial possibilaties to order it right now, but January would be fine! :D

[maJ estY]

Thank you beautiful and helpfull people! It is all clear to me now! And Ed, I'll wait. Infact I haven't got to financial possibilaties to order it right now, but January would be fine! :D

How do you want to know that we are "beautiful"? :P

[merijn]

Since you are keyboardists that is for sure. And don't forget, I have your pictur, Jan! :D 8)

[maJ estY]

D'oh - delete that one quick, please! :)

[el mae de las teclas]

I can see Majesty's face : :oops: , hehe

[merijn]

Hahaha, LoL. Those ''picture yourself'' threads do have an advantage! Although agree with the facty that some pics could be updated, like mine for instance. :roll:

Little question regarding the topic. The XP-30 and the Roland jv-1010 have the same sounds, and the xp-30 even more, right? :P

[Digilog]

Little question regarding the topic. The XP-30 and the Roland jv-1010 have the same sounds, and the xp-30 even more, right? :P

Correct.

[merijn]

Hey, people. I was just surfing around (on the web :P :D ) and I found the Roland G-800, less presets but a very nice worlstation. My teacher used to have one of those. For as far as I can remember, it's an awesome thing! What about you?

[maJ estY]

Well, I don't know this model - could it be that it is a little older?

[merijn]

Yes Jan, i believe the thing is old. Here's a picture of the board!


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec98/images/rolandg1000.gif

This board has 76 keys. That's one heck of an advantage!
Any comments on this one?