As I Am - Video Inside

[Enc3f4L0]

Posted at Jp forum:

My brother and I just learned As I Am and we recorded this video...

A few notes:

1) The intro was played on guitar cuz my brother doesn't have 6 string bass for the harmonics
2) I used standard tuning 6 strings
3) We are aware of a few timing problems and messed up notes... You know how it is. You just learn something and still try to figure out where your fingers will jump next and you mess up.
4) oh, the feedback wasn't enough for the ending... (stupid low volume speaker)

Have fun...

http://www.davidrodgers.net/archive/public_video.php?act=dl&file=VGhpYWdvXyZfRmVsaXBlX 0NhbXBvcy1Bc19JX0FtLldNVg==

[hephiroth]

that was pretty cool! what were the drums done on? they sounded good...cool shit man, i'm impressed with the solo!

-jeff-

[Lyngs]

Great playing! :wink:

You need to do something seriously about the framerate, though! :?

[assassin]

I guess those drums are ripped from Drums of Thought? Nice playing :)

[progkeys]

There's a way to play that clean guitar part much easier than you did! Check the powertab, and you see what I mean :wink:

[Enc3f4L0]

The framerate sucks when there is too much movement on screen... An USB problem I guess...

And yes, the Drums are from Drums of Thought.

Thanks for watching.

[Spasm]

Impressive !!!

Apart from the obvious lag in the video as others had pointed out...ahhh but the video isn't whats important...the playing is what counts and you've pretty much nailed it....both yourself and your brother have skills...i'll be sure to check out more of your stuff in the future !!!!

Spasm.

[Enc3f4L0]

Thnx!

We'll soon upload an Mp3 version of As I Am... With keys this time... Played by someone from this forum, although he isn't well known here. :roll:

*wait mode*

[Deceit]

Well, keys aren't really fundamental in As I Am... ;D.
Deceit.

[Enigma™]

Well, keys aren't really fundamental in As I Am... ;D.
Deceit.

That's like saying your absurd posts aren't fundimental to this forum.

:D

[Enc3f4L0]

The keys for this song are awesome...

It's amazing how it fills the blanks even way low in the mix.

IMO I would crank them higher on our mix... But I'll leave that to our en(igma)gineer.

[Deceit]

:P :P :P
Oh come on, there's no solo (except for that, um, well...patch tweaking), the sounds are so low they are barely audible, and the whole song seems to come out right from St.Anger. Is it so clear I LOVE that song? ;). Sincerely, when it came out TOT was in my playlist very often, now I just don't enjoy the listening anymore. It bored me. BUT I listen almost daily to the whole 1989-1995 discography. A Change Of Seasons :''') my guitarist just phoned me and said I have to learn it asap. Busy cover band life :roll: ...
Deceit.

[FunkyDigits]

Pffft... "fundamental" importance....this would mean something integral to the general sound of the band? Something that lends cohesion to the rest of the sound. Fundamentally, solos don't mean a thing to a song unless they're following a certain rythymn or filling in a blank spot. The rythymn, the chords, the arrangement, and for a keyboardist the sound samples are the fundamentals of the sound. Solos are awesome, and in DT are very often fundamentally important to the music. But that doesn't mean that just because there isn't a solo, the keys are not fundamentally important. In fact, I'd say the lack of a solo in the song makes the keys MORE fundamentally important, however much less important if yer going for showmanship or displays of speed. Plus, the chords JR follows there are just wicked. :P Reminds me of SymphonyX a bit.

[Deceit]

"As I am" reminds you of Symphony X? I don't really find any comparison between the two totally different styles - and hey, there's a keyboard solo in almost every single Symphony X song...anyway every time I listen to the title track of the 3rd album ("The Divine Wings of Tragedy") (I have them all, I'm simply too addicted to S'X!) I practically touch the edge of paradise - the instrumental parts are OUTSTANDING. The gregorian choirs in the beginning are STUNNING. That album is definitely my second favourite.
Solos are fundamental, I agree, and hey, there are songs where there's no solo but you still have a hard time riffing :D. I think, anyway, it is really undeniable the keyboards are really low on mixing - the first time me and my mates listened to the radio edit, we thought someone pressed mute. The reso bass lead (or whatever the name is) patch is really in background - I know it's there, but it's really low. And I think the result of the song isn't compromised by the absence of keyboards. I don't even like the bridge arrangements I've heard on some bootlegs of the recent tour (Copenhagen - as far as I can remember). But this is a matter of tastes - or not?
Deceit.

[thisdyingsoul]

No offense... but you're completely playing this song incorrectly.

I recently covered As I Am.. so I should know.. You should look at some powertabs for this song.. :roll: :?

[Phred]

I disagree. I no nothing about guitar, but lots about music and it sounds pretty much identical to me.

Nice work indeed.

[thisdyingsoul]

I'm a guitarist... And it dosen't sound correct. He also forgets the AH in the chorus, etc. The bass does harmonics w/ distortion at the beginning. Some notes may be the same, but it is still played incorrectly. Just look at the EB video of JP demoing strings.. and if you see them live. It's clear as day that they are playing As I Am incorrectly.

[Enc3f4L0]

It's clear as day that you didn't read my notes on the original post.

No shit the bass plays the harmonics with distortion. But since you covered the song, you do know that one of those harmonics is on a C string... My brother doesn't have that since he only has a 5 string bass... But you didn't read that, did you?

I also did mention that I was playing on a standard tuned guitar. EADGBE.
As I Am is played on a C tuning... So it was an ADAPTATION, changing octaves or adding low 5ths to make it sound heavier and having the bass play the low C.

And no offense. But if you identify an accurate playing only by comparing fingerings on videos you're really a failure as a musician.

Here is a link to a decently recorded As I Am we did awhile ago, with keys played by your friendly mod Enigma (you'll meet him soon). Eyes won't do much for you since this is an MP3, so try using your ears :)

http://members.empowering.com/gwfran/aiacover-dave-felipe-thiago.mp3


Oh, and Welcome to the Forum. You might wanna check out another musical project by Enigma.

http://jordanrudess.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3128

Cya.

Edit: typos

[FunkyDigits]

He's right, ya know. Ya see, there are these things that I like to call notes. When you play a C, no matter where you play it on your axe of choice, the note remains a C. Just because he fingers the song differently, in a different tuning, or because they opted into using a guitar to play the same notes the bass played in the original song, does not mean that the song is "incorrect." Rather, it means the song is an adaptation of the original to fit the equipment and overall sound of the current players. Classical pianists strive to learn a song in a very exact manner, but a good pianist knows it can be adapted into other keys and different chord inversions can be used to add variety to the mix (not that they did any of that, just making a point). The only possible "incorrect" playing of ANYTHING musically is that of actual fingering mistakes, in which you slip or forget something while playing. In short, I'm sorry, but just because their equipment is different and their tuning is something other than the original players', does not mean the song is being "incorrectly" played. In fact, it sounds very well done, nearly identical, and deserves props upon props upon props.

[thisdyingsoul]

I'm well aware of these facts you've pointed out.
I'm stating that the "correct" as in (THE WAY DREAM THEATER PLAYS IT) is in a tuned to to C guitar. Sure, the notes may be the same, but the quality is not. I also understand your statements about the 6 string bass, I missed that part at first, and my apologies. It's just when I cover a song, I strive to play it the way the artist does. Good job considering you're playing this in standard tuning..

[thisdyingsoul]

Also, I give you props for adapting this song from it's original version to standard tuning.

[Mornor]

The link doesn't work for me :oops: