Something interesting for you guys and Jordan?

[Lukeofkeys]

Hi there!

I hope that sometimes Jordan crosses the way here.... ;D cause that could be interestin for him too!

look at that
www.midilive.org

Would love to have that!

I dunno if you knew that already, but doubled info is even better :)

greets
Luke


edit: sorry, link was wrong ;)

[alauth]

Error, page not found ???

[Lukeofkeys]

sorry,....

fixed... ;)

greetzs

[Premetheus37]

That's pretty cool. I like the idea of being able to manipulate a video like that using music, and in my own home!

~Premetheus

[Lukeofkeys]

...and they say it's gonna have a user interface where users can create own effects controlled by MIDI! So you're not bounded to any presets which look always the same! :D....
It's not visible that good but I think they also demonstrate how to use CC sending Controllers controlling other video parameters :D

greets

[orphe]

Is this an open source project cause I would be happy to participate, coding adding features ... Is it free or it is a commercial software.

It is a great idea and seams to work well for the moment

I'Ve seen a dmx output is also in the goals ... that would be gratefull for stage lighting.

[Lukeofkeys]

I dunno what kind of project it is, but I already wrote a mail to the contact adress what this is going to be and if it's going to be sold or free for download under GPL!

Yeah, I'd really love to use that on stage with a projector....
Would also be great for Jordan's keyboard solos he's performing often during the DT shows!

greets

[orphe]

i've seen he is doing almost the same thing with an animation of a little wizard. In earlier thread there's a video posted about that. it was about namm i think or another conference

[Lukeofkeys]

I know, I think it was on NAMM09 at a Korg presentation!....He played with the Oasys and nearby was a flatscreen with the little wizard playing exactly the notes he played on the keys...

Well but did he actually use the little wizard live with DT? He will, I think...
But anyways this MIDI visalisation thing would be nice too!

MP likes such psychodelic effects and sometimes the video projection hasn't got anything to do with the song....so instead of showing psychodelic-effects they could blend in jordans triggered video results :D....

greets

[Mike Lydian]

fantastic for live perfromance!

I wonder if the same thing can be done with say the v-drums? or pretty much any device that uses midi?

[Lukeofkeys]

I think it doesn't matter what kind of midi device it is, as long as it delivers midi events ;)....

greets

[Grey Loki]

Max/MSP and Jitter have been able to do this sort of thing for a while - still a really cool implementation though.

[brakkum]

that could be extremely impressive with DT's live show if used correctly.

[sba4life]

I have a question.
Does JR ever post on these threads?

[rlainhart]

Sometimes. He's been very busy lately, though.


I have a question. Does JR ever post on these threads?

[Stephe]

Hi,

My name is Stephan (most people call me Stephe ;-), and together with Gerald, a friend from my university, we founded the MIDI.live project last summer.

Lukeofkeys sent me an email in which he told me from this thread.


A few words on MIDI.live:

It is a software which takes MIDI signals as an input and creates visualizations out of it in realtime. That could be a three-dimensional piano playing itself, or an abstract scene with blobby objects, as you can see in the demo video on our website. The type of MIDI instrument doesn't matter, that could be a synthesizer, stage piano, drum set, MIDI guitar, ... whatever supports MIDI.

The software consists of two parts:
First, there is the "core", which manages your MIDI inputs and the plugins.
But the most important part are the plugins themselves. They take the MIDI messages from the core and create the imagery in realtime. We will provide a SDK for plugin development (Java + openGL).
Together with MIDI.live there should be a community, where users develop plugins and share them (if they want to) with others, using a special plugin browser. You can also provide the source code if you want.

It is also planned to provide a DMX interface to control stage lighting. That means that you can i.e. control RGB lights which go along with the background color of your visualization to extend the impression coming from the screen to the whole stage.

Tomorrow I will have a talk with Gerald where we will discuss the next steps of MIDI.live, which mainly involves the start of the beta phase (planned March 2009).

In the beta phase, ...

... you can download the core system.
... you can download the SDK and develop your own plugin.
... you can/should(!) provide feedback to us, so we can adjust the software to your needs.

As soon as we have collected enough user information, we will proceed with the next phase, where a kind of "final" version (software is never final!! ;-) will be the goal.
Since Gerald's and my spare time has limits, we will set up a core developer team to work on the MIDI.live core (features, stabilty, DMX interface support,...), maintain the community (forums, plugin sharing) and keep the website up to date.

As long as we don't see a way to become millionairs through it ;-), MIDI.live will be absolutely FREE!!

I'm very glad to see that there are already a number of people out there interested in our project. I will post the news of my talk with Gerald in the next few days.

Stay tuned to www.midilive.org!

[PinkFloydDudi]

I'm honestly not that impressed. There are applications out there which change music into similar video displays that seem far better than that one.

I understand most of them aren't driven off of midi, but they are able to detect note changes and volume changes and display accordingly.

Maybe this has more features than I briefly saw in the demo.

For example, I would want something that would attempt to translate the sound into color. If there is a very fast solo going on in the upper keyboard registers, a "HOT" color scheme would be appropriate. If slow and swirling sounds were playing with lots of echo and delays, perhaps a "cool and windy" type of look.

Seeing a dot replicate or move depending on what note I am playing just doesn't impress me.
I was hoping for a lot more, although again, I may just not be seeing all the customizable features.

[Stephe]

I try it again to post something here, since my last post apparently was not accepted by a mod. (?)

My name is Stephe, I'm one of the developers of MIDI.live.
Beta phase will start at the end of March, where you can download the MIDI.live core beta (with the 2 demo plugins from the video) and the SDK beta for developing your own visualization plugins. We will also provide a little tutorial. However, you need some knowledge in Java and openGL (JOGL).

The visualizations on the demo video are just to give you an idea. Speed-dependant colors or figures are of course possible, but our time was limited, and believe me, we have plenty of ideas! That's why there is an SDK, so you can do it your own.
The main idea of MIDI.live is that users develop plugins and share them with others by using an integrated plugin browser. Our work (and the work of a future core developer team) will be providing services for the community, and the constant development of the MIDI.live core, which involves MIDI and plugin management, DMX/Art-net integration, and additional features.

[PinkFloydDudi]

I try it again to post something here, since my last post apparently was not accepted by a mod. (?)

My name is Stephe, I'm one of the developers of MIDI.live.
Beta phase will start at the end of March, where you can download the MIDI.live core beta (with the 2 demo plugins from the video) and the SDK beta for developing your own visualization plugins. We will also provide a little tutorial. However, you need some knowledge in Java and openGL (JOGL).

The visualizations on the demo video are just to give you an idea. Speed-dependant colors or figures are of course possible, but our time was limited, and believe me, we have plenty of ideas! That's why there is an SDK, so you can do it your own.
The main idea of MIDI.live is that users develop plugins and share them with others by using an integrated plugin browser. Our work (and the work of a future core developer team) will be providing services for the community, and the constant development of the MIDI.live core, which involves MIDI and plugin management, DMX/Art-net integration, and additional features.


Now you got me excited....Being able to customize what happens as a result of midi events would be a sweet tool for live performance.

Being a computer programmer by day, and keyboardist by night, I'm hoping to be able to help out a bit once the beta is released.

[Lukeofkeys]

Hey Stephe!

Good to hear news! Sounds verrrry promising! It's a pitty that I've no clue of programming....I'll be dependend from other users generosity ;).....

Keep us up to date!

greets
Luke

[Stephe]

Well, then it's a good time to learn it ;-) Java is not the most complex programming language in the world, that's one of the reasons we had choosen it. Additionally, there are hundreds of tutorials on graphics programming out there.

Future versions of the SDK will include some routines to free you from annoying programming work. These will include texture loading, lighting, and other things, i.e. the blobby objects you see in the video.

[Mantarkus]

Many years ago there was this interactive midi video software advertized on Keyboard magazine for the Mac, I believe it is what we see in the Live Scenes concert video. I allways hated the fact it wasn't available for PC.

Now this new software looks cool, I was actually looking for something similar to windows media player visualizations but that could be used from a live audio. I just hope it's not too expensive.

David C.

[Lukeofkeys]

I just hope it's not too expensive.

David C.

Well, the Software we're talking about now is free!... ;)

greets

[zolhof]

couldn´t load the website, but are you guys talking about something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QKPb3erkQ

if so, Jordan´s already using it!

[Mantarkus]

Well, the Software we're talking about now is free!... ;)

greets

Holy bottled water you are kidding me right? :eek: Cant wait to try it, I just hope my old and worn out P4 system is up to the task.

[Lukeofkeys]

If you take a look on their homepage (which got a quite nice news update recently) you'll notice that I'm not kidding, it's for free! Amazing is, that the Software provides an output for controlling the StageLights! (dunno how this specific output is called ;) )

greets

[Stephe]

couldn´t load the website, but are you guys talking about something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QKPb3erkQ

if so, Jordan´s already using it!

Damned! ;-)

Well, when we actually started the project we looked at the current "market". MIDI visualization is not a new idea, there are already some implementations. But we think the concept of having a central application and the possibility of developing and sharing visualizations with others (for free!) is a new approach.
Maybe I can have a talk with the guy who implemented this one and can convince him to work with us ;-)