View Full Version : Kurzweil PC3X can change keybed response?
MarkDTMMZ
01-23-2009, 05:52 PM
I just saw a review from musicians friend that says you can change the response from the keybed from piano action to synth/organ response. I have never read this in any other review or from the kurzweil website.
here's the link:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document/kurzweil/pc3x?doc_id=104327&src=3NL9AN&ZYXSEM=0&Prime=ElectricGuitar
Has anyone else seen this? or am I just retarded....
Thanks
Mark
-=AnatomiC=-
01-23-2009, 06:12 PM
Yes, apparently it can change the action type with a simple push of something...
Sounds like something that will break very fast though :redface: or maybe I'm just to skeptical, as always.
Mike Lydian
01-23-2009, 08:53 PM
oh yes i heard about this, thats an amazing feature!
this is why kurzweil will always own korg :tongue: (better features, better sounds, papa johns)
I really wish Rudess would go back to Kurzweil and they're awesome new workstation.
could be mistaken but doesn't Rudess already own one?
AnatomiC you could be right hahaha cause i've never had the honor of actually playing one yet :/
MarkDTMMZ
01-23-2009, 09:21 PM
It's weird because I've played it a couple of times, but no one told me about it. It's not mentioned in the keyboard mag review
jeebustrain
01-23-2009, 09:30 PM
you sure they're not talking about switching the velocity curve?
Megakazbek
01-24-2009, 02:46 AM
I just saw a review from musicians friend that says you can change the response from the keybed from piano action to synth/organ response.
Where does it says you can change the response?
Basically, they say it's suitable for both piano and synth/organ technique. It's impossible to adjust physical response, all you can do is change velocity curves (and something called "key action maps" which are not really explained but seem like more detailed velocity curves).
They also have few inacurracies in their review. For example, Kurzweil hasn't "designed a quick-release spring". The keyboard is entirely designed by Fatar, and it's a generic TP-40 series model which has been around for, like, 10+ years; there isn't anything designed specifically for PC3X in it.
Also, VA-1 is not a separate engine and is a part of VAST, so saying things like "VA-1 ... can be combined with the VAST engine" doesn't really make sense. VA-1 is VAST, it's stupid to combine VAST with VAST :)
Liquidkey
01-24-2009, 05:06 AM
could be mistaken but doesn't Rudess already own one?
Yes he does! http://www.jordanrudess.com/diary_images/dt_studio_09_001.jpg
-=AnatomiC=-
01-24-2009, 09:28 AM
I see he has Prophet 08 also...
Why am I not surprised? :redface:
stefanlindmark
01-25-2009, 02:56 PM
PC3x owner here.
The physical keyboard action cannot be changed.
There are multiple velocity curves you can apply in software, but that's just adjusting how the synth engine responds to physical key velocity.
So, don't spend any more time looking for "Keys=Waterfall B3"/"Keys=Weighted Piano" in the menus. :tongue:
-=AnatomiC=-
01-25-2009, 03:06 PM
...so Kurzweil designed a quick-release spring that goes from a pianistic feel to synth/organ techniques without missing a beat (literally). Though Kurzweil keybeds have always had the best feel, you can further adjust the response to suit your touch.
Either you have misted something, or these guys are lying or I have missed something...
Megakazbek
01-25-2009, 03:52 PM
...so Kurzweil designed a quick-release spring that goes from a pianistic feel to synth/organ techniques without missing a beat (literally). Though Kurzweil keybeds have always had the best feel, you can further adjust the response to suit your touch.
Either you have misted something, or these guys are lying or I have missed something...
Basically these guys are a bit misinformed and have some difficulties expressing themselves.
Kurzweil hasn't designed any kind of "quick-release spring". If there is a spring, it's designed by Fatar and isn't specific to PC3X.
By "goes from a pianistic feel to synth/organ techniques", I think they mean that though it's a piano-feel keyboard, it still allows using synth/organ playing techiques on it.
By "adjusting the response", I think they mean adjusting velocity curves.
Be assured, there are no physical action adjustments on PC3X.
MarkDTMMZ
01-27-2009, 01:30 PM
Ok, so they were wrong....when I couldn't find it anywhere else I started to wonder....You'd think keyboard magazine would have said something about it! =)
Thanks for the help
jeebustrain
01-27-2009, 02:17 PM
Ok, so they were wrong....when I couldn't find it anywhere else I started to wonder....You'd think keyboard magazine would have said something about it! =)
Thanks for the help
yeah - and I would think Kurzweil would at least mention it on their website if they were able to come up with something so revolutionary.
orphe
01-27-2009, 03:54 PM
yeah - and I would think Kurzweil would at least mention it on their website if they were able to come up with something so revolutionary.
It's something they would be proud.
jeebustrain
01-31-2009, 09:43 PM
Something I've wondered about this board. Other than the available sampler and the dual ribbon controllers, does the K2600 series have anything that this one doesn't?
I never thought I'd say this, but I've got a big fat-ass tax refund coming this way and it seems the gear whore in me seems to be making a return. Not that I'm not happy with my Fusion, but there's nothing wrong with more more more.
orphe
02-01-2009, 08:15 AM
Something I've wondered about this board. Other than the available sampler and the dual ribbon controllers, does the K2600 series have anything that this one doesn't?
You can get a ribbon separatly and it can be splitted in three parts.
No there's nothing else (i think of). The PC3 as more powerfull programming and loads of sounds more
dsadsa
02-14-2010, 09:18 AM
You can get a ribbon separatly and it can be splitted in three parts.
No there's nothing else (i think of). The PC3 as more powerfull programming and loads of sounds more
sampler.......
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