SERIOUS DECISIONS going on, I REALLY need your help guys!

[Enigma™]

Ok, so I have the option to trade my Kurzweil 2500 *with a couple of broken buttons for a perfectly functional and BRAND NEW Korg Trinity Pro X.
Here's where I need help.

I know very well the advantages and disadvantages of both.
I'd be DAMN sure that I'd miss the big ass ribbon on the Kurzy, but like the HUGE screen on the Korgy.
I'd miss the Piano and the JR Lead on the Kurzy, but LOVE the Monster lead and the drums/bass/splits and orchestral sounds on the Korgy.
I don't do live performances on the Kurzweil, so I don't need to worry about the patch changing ability.
The Korg is easier to program, but also less flexible...

I'm having SERIOUS internal debate guys. I LOVE my Kurzweil, but where I'm at, not only do I not know if I'm using it to it's full potential, but for what I want to do I don't know if I'd be better suited for a Korg.
The other consideration is that around here, I'd HAVE Korg support/distrubitor/upgrade center, etc..
The last time my Kurzweil broke, I had to send it 2000 miles away!!! *and let me tell ya, that AIN'T CHEAP!*

I could emulate the JR sound on the Trinity - I KNOW I could. I know that thing inside and out, know what layers do what and how they work. what they sound like, EVERYTHING.
But then it's only got 24 or 32 notes of polyphony too.

Maybe I'm asking an impossible quesion that I can't answer without actually HAVING the thing for a month, but I can't afford to rent one for that long either.

I know the pianos suck, but I fixed up the stock 2500 one nice, and it sounds better then it did when I got it. I can do a synth justice for programming - this I know. *at least enough anyway*

What other things should I consider? In the end, I just want to make sure I'm happy, but I can't answer that question until I've already MADE it.

*I guess like they said in the matrix movie "You didn't come here to make the choice. You've already made it. You're here to try and understand WHY you made the choice."

I guess part of me already has decided "Get the trinity" because
A- It's cheaper to replace
B- It's FUCKING SILVER!!!! :twisted: \m/ :twisted:
C- I'd have available support for it HERE, where the Kurzweil I don't...
D- I love my Kurzweil, but I'm getting REALLY frustrated because a couple of the keys are broken, however I CAN'T GET THEM FIXED!!! There's no where here that will do it. You have NO IDEA how much of a pissoff it is to be playing or even worse: JAMMING and having the bloody thing drop 3 octaves for NO REASON
E- I KNOW that they're both capable synths. The effects engine on the Trinity kills the 2500 unless I got KDFX, but for that much, I can just BUY a TR-Rack!!! How stupid is THAT?
F- Resale value - Around HERE, I could get more money for a "professional workstation" because it has the KORG sticker on the back. I've tried selling the Kurzy when I was desperate, and no one even CALLED. I didn't have a price and my ad was GOOD...

Anyway, if anyone has some inspiring Jem of info that might help me, PLEASE let me know.
Any of you Trinity users out there: What are your beefs with it? Anything that it does that you don't like? *Besides the patch switching? I know about that one*
HEEEEELP!!!! I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!! :?: :cry:

[Over The Edge]

Stay with the 2500. I used to own both these instruments.
The Trinity sounds are much thinner sounding and rely
wholly on their FX to beef them up. Remember the Kurz has
a minimum of 4 oscillators on at one time. People often complain
of the 48 note polyphony, but multiply 48 X 4 oscs. and you can
achieve such a fat sound. It sounds like you could use some
new sounds. Why not contact places like Sweetwater Sound
to get some new program Rom sounds on floppy. I know
that they're going for real cheap. Or you can go the route of
CD sample libararies which are more expensive but are a
great route to take in refreshing your sonic palette.


FL
www.franklucas.net

[Enigma™]

that's the thing though - I can't MAKE sounds (because of the broken button)
I'm spending MUCH more time friggin with getting it to stay in one octave then I am actually MAKING music!
I can't afford to have it repaired at the moment, and loading samples are the same thing as well. I can't delete the programs once I've loaded a sample *but when I turn off the machine, the samples gone so then I have an empty program with no sound that I can't get rid of*

I'm stuck.
What about if someone offered me a Triton Pro X? Would that be a better bargain of sorts?

[Tigerfolly]

Anyway, if anyone has some inspiring Jem of info that might help me, PLEASE let me know.
Any of you Trinity users out there: What are your beefs with it? Anything that it does that you don't like? *Besides the patch switching? I know about that one*
HEEEEELP!!!! I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!! :?: :cry:

Actually, you've got all the information, and I think you're going about it the right way.. you're weighing the pros and cons of each board in it's current state as they apply to your style and personal priorities.

I like the Trinity. I like the Triton better, but if I had the spare cash right now, I'd probably pick up a Trinity, unless I somehow wound up with $1,000-$1,500 in which case I'd pick up a Karma or used Triton Classic. Yeah, some of the sounds are inferior to the Kurzweil, but I like the interface and controls more on the Korgs.

One thing that's for sure, the Trinity would be inspirational for a while after you got it.. new instruments almost always are. But, you don't want to be kicking yourself six months down the road because you gave up your k2500.

The Trinity has a small ribbon controller as well, which isn't as nice as the Kurzweil one, but it's better than not having one at all. Some of the Trinity's sounds are thin, but most of those preset sounds have some -really- wierd default EQ settings. Even the Triton Studio, which comes with the EXB-08 16mb Concert Grand Piano sample has up to 7db of EQ tweaking on it, and is awash in reverb.. Set the EQs flat, set the effects completely dry, -THEN- tweak them to your taste.. not to try and stand out in a room full of other keyboards from other companies, and you may be a bit more happy with them.

And yes, if it was a Triton ProX instead of a Trinity ProX, it would definitely be a better deal.

If it was me, I'd definitely do it, merely based on the fact that I'm traded a board that I can't use up to it's full potential (because of the broken buttons) and getting a new one to explore. I'd make sure that the Trinity isn't broken in a similar manner though.

[Mago_Lari]

hey Enigma..i think you are going to have an great deal with thr Triton pro X!
You have so many reasons to change from Kurz to KOrg, and if your are sure you will get new sounds, and other stuff i suggets you to go for it..without thinking anymore!!!
Hope you will be satisfied with every choice you'll have!
claudio

[Mago_Lari]

oh...i red now that it was Trinity, not Triton..
Sprru for mistake!
c

[Wizard]

I have a Trinity V3 and I love it, it was my dream till the day I got it. Now my dream is a K2600XS! :lol:
However, being a Korg user makes me tell you that, in the end, the Trinity is a good instrument (and you're talking about the Pro X version! Whoa!!! 8) ). Moreover having a prompt assistance in case of damage is a thing I wouldn't underestimate.
So my final word is: yes on the trade! :)

Marco

[synthguy]

Hmm... if you could swing the Triton, I'd sure go for that. Some of the sounds on the Trinity are a little cheezy. But then, that's only some of them. I don't know, I feel like you do now. One thing is, make sure you'll be in a position to replace the 2500 within the next year, like by summer, because I know you'll be kicking yourself. I have over every piece of gear I sold.

[Purator]

Get the Trinity!

It's a bloody good deal :)

[Kurzweilfreak]

Dude, are you stupid? :shock: Get a K2600 instead. :P \m/

[Over The Edge]

Listen to Brett. It's for your own good. :lol:


FL
www.franklucas.net

[Kurzweilfreak]

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's right. 8) Reco'nize, foo'. \m/

[Enigma™]

dude, If I had the fundage, I'd have all 4 major synths! But at the moment, I have to either:
A: Get the buttons repaired
B: get a NEW synth.

Brett, if I placed an order of 54 pot switches and relative K2600 buttons, would that be a signifigant enough order for you to send them to Canada?

I might just end up replacing ALL the pots and buttons while they have it open :)

[Over The Edge]

quote:


dude, If I had the fundage, I'd have all 4 major synths! But at the moment, I have to either:
A: Get the buttons repaired
B: get a NEW synth.




Yesssssss!!!!

FL
www.franklucas.net