Hammond organ growl

[Analogkid]

Guys,

Anyone have a clue how to get more growl out of my hammond? Tony Kaye from Yes had the most wicked grindy Hammond sound. Im running my RT3 through a 147 Leslie.

Suggested draw bar settings would be appreciated! :biggrin:

[Maximus]

Hmmm interesting, could be 2 things Tony's hammond was "dirty" (worn, and below voltage tubes, dity tone wheels) and it was probably moded to give it extra Bite

[Ghostlord101]

Probably stupid and/or wrong because I don't know a lot about hammonds but: How about simply using a guitar amp with and gain up instead of your leslie? Pretty basic but worth a go. I've got a friends old guitar amp, and if I run my Fusion into it then by wigglying© round with the settings I can get a a controllable amount of growl without putting on the tube blaster.

[HammondToby]

It's not a stupid ides, to use a guitar amp. Jon Lord did this all the time. I know a lot people, who had a solid state Leslie (760, 760pro, 770), took the amp out and replaced it with either a guitaramp or a custom organ amp (tube).

Another method would be: loop a (tube) preamp in. So the chain is RT3 > tube preamp > Leslie preamp > Leslie and hotten the signal up, or use the new preamp to get distortion. This doesn't work, if you have the Leslie connected via an internal Leslie kit.

But I have a question: Analog, does the solo pedal unit work? and if so, could you pleas record some samples of it?

Best regards
HammondToby

[Mush]

The Leslie hardly does the 32s justice, it's much better with a decent sub. I added an extra 15" sub from a Saville to my Hammond. My Rodgers runs a double 15" 1/4 length folded horn for the pedals. Do keep and use that full radiating concave pedalboard. It's way better than those crappy flat ones.

[Analogkid]

It's not a stupid ides, to use a guitar amp. Jon Lord did this all the time. I know a lot people, who had a solid state Leslie (760, 760pro, 770), took the amp out and replaced it with either a guitaramp or a custom organ amp (tube).

Another method would be: loop a (tube) preamp in. So the chain is RT3 > tube preamp > Leslie preamp > Leslie and hotten the signal up, or use the new preamp to get distortion. This doesn't work, if you have the Leslie connected via an internal Leslie kit.

But I have a question: Analog, does the solo pedal unit work? and if so, could you pleas record some samples of it?

Best regards
HammondToby


That might be worth a try Toby, I will have to look into it.

In a way, Mush is right Toby, my 147 is not the ideal choice for an RT3 with AGO pedals, a 122 would be much better. But, if you would like I can try and sample the solo pedal unit for you. I would just have to think of the best way to do it. I imagine I could mic the leslie directly and run it to my fusion and take the samples that way.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I would assume someone like Goff makes a cable to turn my 6 pin into a 1/4 output jack?

Brent

[RAN7ARAVE]

:-O you guys are crazy i love the sound of my dads 147!! i think he has a custom amp unit for it tho

i would buy a custom amp unit for the 147

[Analogkid]

:-O you guys are crazy i love the sound of my dads 147!! i think he has a custom amp unit for it tho

i would buy a custom amp unit for the 147


Ran,

Dont misunderstand what we are saying. The RT3 Hammond I have has a solo pedal unit with AGO pedals the 147 would be more at home with something like an L100 rather than the RT3 thats all. It still sounds great!

[HammondToby]

STOP! The 147 and the 122 are the same model with one exception: the input on the 122 is balanced, on the 147 it's unbalanced and thus the pins are used with different allocations (the preamp for the 147 is not compatible with a 122) . Otherwise, the specs are identical! Both have a 15" sub and the ferro fluid driver with the same amp and the same rotating system.

Best regards
HammondToby

[Analogkid]

STOP! The 147 and the 122 are the same model with one exception: the input on the 122 is balanced, on the 147 it's unbalanced and thus the pins are used with different allocations (the preamp for the 147 is not compatible with a 122) . Otherwise, the specs are identical! Both have a 15" sub and the ferro fluid driver with the same amp and the same rotating system.

Best regards
HammondToby

I bow down to your knowledge Toby!

Best,

Brent

[Mantarkus]

Don't know if they still exist, but to join the Hammond List (ten years ago when I got hold of an M-103... think I'll fire it up again this week) it was required that new members should read this FAQ (http://www.theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/hammond-faq_toc.html)... check out item 1.10.3


BTW Tony Kaye used an L-100 and he got tips on how to tap the output from Keith Emerson during the The Nice era :wink: .

David C.

[Analogkid]

Don't know if they still exist, but to join the Hammond List (ten years ago when I got hold of an M-103... think I'll fire it up again this week) it was required that new members should read this FAQ (http://www.theatreorgans.com/hammond/faq/hammond-faq_toc.html)... check out item 1.10.3


BTW Tony Kaye used an L-100 and he got tips on how to tap the output from Keith Emerson during the The Nice era :wink: .

David C.


Ahhh very interesting!! Thanks






News flash guys!!

A friend offered me a crazy amount of money for my RT3 and Leslie so it looks like my time is short. I think maybe I will replace it with one of those Roland VK76 combo organs or something like that and a leslie simulator. Ah well easy come, easy go!!