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Zakosis
07-29-2008, 09:07 AM
Can anyone recommend some top of the line studio monitors?

I'm looking to upgrade from Samsons to something of higher caliber.

FRETPICK
07-29-2008, 09:26 AM
Yamaha NS10. Stand's the test of time. :cool:

Tiko
07-29-2008, 10:23 AM
I'll steal this a bit and ask for good-for-the-price monitors around 200 euros?
I know that's not much but I haven't got the best budget...

Anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.thomann.de/fi/esi_near05_aktive_nahfeldmonitore.htm

-=AnatomiC=-
07-29-2008, 12:01 PM
I was thinking about Mackie hr624 MkII (NEW!!!)

Everything about them is professional (it has a THX certificate... cool) and the
price is reasonable: 900 euro for a pair. And it won't really loose value over time, things like monitors don't become outdated: hr624 mkI was realeased in mid 90ties. Good sound quality is good sound quality... no things like sample rate and memory etc...

calmar
07-29-2008, 02:03 PM
I was thinking about Mackie hr624 MkII (NEW!!!)

Everything about them is professional (it has a THX certificate... cool) and the
price is reasonable: 900 euro for a pair. And it won't really loose value over time, things like monitors don't become outdated: hr624 mkI was realeased in mid 90ties. Good sound quality is good sound quality... no things like sample rate and memory etc...
Yeah, but I wouldn't really care about it loosing value or not, as studio monitors are really not something to buy used. You don't know how the other guy used them and pushed them to their limits...

Dave

King_Ellesar
07-29-2008, 02:30 PM
I've had the M-Audio BX-5's for years and they still deliver beautifully.

Reasonably priced, too.

Sparky93
07-29-2008, 08:06 PM
Yamaha MSP7!!!

HammondToby
07-29-2008, 10:24 PM
it has a THX certificate... cool

I wouldn't give much on that. THX means, that they are quite loud at some frequencies and a serious THX-Certificate isn't something, that's given for a speaker, but for an acoustically optimized room! Most of the time THX doesn't sound beautiful, but LOUD ... so yes, I'm not a big fan of THX.

For the monitors: I'd go for ADAM (http://www.adam-audio.com/studio/) (P or S series) or Genelec (http://www.genelecusa.com/products/) (80*0A or1032A) if I had to choose. Can't stand the Yamaha NS10, they are good for one test: if it doesn't sound totally as crap on them, the mix is superb... and they look nice.

In the studio, we have the RL900A from Geithain (http://www.me-geithain.de/), but they are rather expencive, heavy and big... Totally oversized for a home studio. May be a smaller one would fit, but they are handmade in germany, so they aren't exactly cheap, but the sound and the resolution of them is unbelivable.

Best regards
HammondToby

-=AnatomiC=-
07-30-2008, 08:24 AM
That's why I wrote "cool" - because I had absolutely no idea what it meant :biggrin:

I was choosing between Mackie, Adam (which in most cases is too expensive) and Genelec.
So you say, something small as Genelec 8020A will provide very good and pure sound quality, same as its bigger brothers? Because I don't care about power: I have a very small room studio/set up.
My price range is 1000 euro for a pair, but if I can pay less for the same (what I need is something that won't bring the quality of my already expensive gear down, don't want monitors to be the weakest link) it is fine by me. And I guess you do pay an extra for this "THX" certificate...

In ur forumz, stiling ur thredz :smile:

HammondToby
07-30-2008, 09:03 AM
Well, the smaler the speaker, the higher the frequency, where it cuts the bass. This might result in a bassy mix, 'cause you try to compensate and on a bigger speaker system there will be 'bassdrum, bass and band' ;)

I'd go for the 8040A or bigger. Monitors are a matter of taste, like synths. So you have to try them. May be, you'll like the ones of KRK, which I don't like at all. If you have the opportunity, try to manage to hear different monitors with a CD you know very well. And then decide on clarity of the mix and not on the fact, that it'll sound better. Focus on precise pan positions, distances and depth of the mix.

My personal choice are the ADAM P22 for work at home.

Best
HammondToby

Zakosis
07-30-2008, 10:01 AM
what do you guys think of the Yamaha HS80M


http://www.sinemedia.com/upload/_up_img/11258965110524751.jpg

HammondToby
07-30-2008, 11:30 PM
Don't know them, I only commented on monitors I've heard. As I said earlier: monitors are a matter of taste. If you can't test them in a store, order them and if you are pleased, keep them, if not, send them back and order others.

Best regards
HammondToby

Zakosis
07-31-2008, 07:01 AM
Thanks for the advice, ill do that.

Syrinx
07-31-2008, 03:53 PM
I was thinking about Mackie hr624 MkII (NEW!!!)

Everything about them is professional (it has a THX certificate... cool) and the
price is reasonable: 900 euro for a pair. And it won't really loose value over time, things like monitors don't become outdated: hr624 mkI was realeased in mid 90ties. Good sound quality is good sound quality... no things like sample rate and memory etc...

Mackie has recently released the MR series in 2 models, the MR5 (5" subwoofer) & MR8. Mackie says they used the same active amps from the HR series. SOS (sound on sound) magazine has reviewed the MR monitors in July and had a favorable verdict. The MR5 is $149 a piece, the MR8 is $249. I'm really tempted to get the MR5.

EDIT: Here is a pic, it's darn gorgeous!

http://www.americanmusical.com/ProductImages/Large/48655.jpg

-=AnatomiC=-
08-01-2008, 01:33 AM
I have something against budget monitors: I've already spend like a fortune already - bringing everything down with cheap monitors would be very unwise. Besides - very good quality monitors are not THAT expensive.

Btw: their hr MkII monitors are brand new also.

Syrinx
08-01-2008, 01:49 AM
That's fine, but if money is not an issue, why not get the best of the best, that is, an Adam audio monitor, or a Dynaudio?

The thing about the new budget Mackies is that they are Mackies! I do not think this company will compromise quality or lower their standard to the point they will release a bad product.

-=AnatomiC=-
08-01-2008, 02:30 AM
I'm not a super ultra demanding pro either, and I wouldn't say that money is not an issue. I was thinking about 1000 euro for a pair. (btw - I could afford Adam A7) - I'm just willing to spend money, but I'm not rich by any means... I think 97% of what I earn goes to my gear.

Problem is that I don't have much experience with monitors, so can't say by the specs alone, what's good and what's bad... but I guess nobody can.
What I really need is clear, high defenition sound and with a good amount of low frequencies.

It is highly possible that Mr5 will please my ears, but other monitors are more expensive for a reason. I think I'll just have to try them all (atleast 3: Mackie, Genelec and Adam)

Sparky93
08-01-2008, 02:40 AM
what do you guys think of the Yamaha HS80M


http://www.sinemedia.com/upload/_up_img/11258965110524751.jpg


Why don't MSP series of Yamaha?? It could adapt with almost room size...
my choice is Yamaha MSP series, and JBL... but I forgot the JBL monitor series, that adjustable easily with knobs at the front & it also could adapt with almost room size... Those could produce good sound...

Grey Loki
08-01-2008, 08:15 AM
Can anyone recommend some top of the line studio monitors


Something from the Earthworks Sigma series, perhaps?

More seriously though, most of PMC's monitors are alright, Adam's A7 and related series also sound pretty sweet as well.

All of this is pretty much academic - the best thing you can do is just turn up to a shop on Tottenham Court Road, London, with a reference CD or two in-hand (a proper pressed CD, not a CD full of burned MP3s), and just sit down and LISTEN to any set of monitors within your budget - make it known to the assistant that you plan to walk out with a set of monitors today, and aren't just time-wasting - this will hopefully make them give you some time and space to just find out how the monitors sound - after that, just choose the set you like the most, and get them.

In this case, I mean 'like' as in, it lets you hear details in a mix that you weren't aware of before, like squeaky bass drum pedals, or drummers sneezing, or bad edits - remember, you don't want studio monitors to make your mix sound good - you want studio monitors that will give you a flat response without accentuating any frequency bands, so that you can get an idea of what your music really sounds like.